Message from @carlos

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2018-08-29 22:49:16 UTC  

Seriously why are you Shia

2018-08-29 22:49:25 UTC  

Do you really believe there are 12 occulted Imams who have god-like powers

2018-08-29 22:49:44 UTC  

Also to say that mutah is legalized prostitution is kinda like saying that marriage is legalized fornication, or polygamy is legalized adultery eh

2018-08-29 22:50:02 UTC  

Wdym by occulted Imams?

2018-08-29 22:50:04 UTC  

No it's not the same thing mutah is a temporary marriage only for sex, no ?

2018-08-29 22:50:17 UTC  

It can be for dating too

2018-08-29 22:50:18 UTC  

I don't know it's a thing I saw somewhere occultation or something

2018-08-29 22:50:48 UTC  

The 12th Imam is in occultation yeah

2018-08-29 22:50:49 UTC  

You're a persian right ? Iranian ?

2018-08-29 22:50:55 UTC  

I'm Albanian

2018-08-29 22:51:01 UTC  

Sayyed is Iranian

2018-08-29 22:51:02 UTC  

Ah Shia Albanian weird

2018-08-29 22:51:07 UTC  

True lol

2018-08-29 22:51:27 UTC  

Albanians are usually catholic/muslims and a lot of atheists I'm sure because of past history n communism I think

2018-08-29 22:51:36 UTC  

@Jacob πŸ•‹ Sayyed is asking for unban, is that ok with u?

2018-08-29 22:51:47 UTC  

@carlos Yeah that's right

2018-08-29 22:51:52 UTC  

Communism

2018-08-29 22:52:00 UTC  

But also prior to Communism

2018-08-29 22:52:13 UTC  

As long as he keeps politics out of it

2018-08-29 22:52:15 UTC  

There were Austro Hungarian agents

2018-08-29 22:52:22 UTC  

I see

2018-08-29 22:52:44 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467464675525787658/484495648142524418/unknown.png

2018-08-29 22:52:45 UTC  

King Zogu was probably a french agent

2018-08-29 22:52:48 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467464675525787658/484495667612352513/unknown-1.png

2018-08-29 22:52:52 UTC  

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2018-08-29 22:52:54 UTC  

He banned shariah

2018-08-29 22:52:56 UTC  

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2018-08-29 22:53:18 UTC  

@John 313 Like the French in Algeria, all kufars do that it's normal

2018-08-29 22:53:32 UTC  

Since you're Shia what do you say about this hadith:

It was narrated from Mu’aawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: β€œThose who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaa’ah (main body of Muslims).”

90% of muslims are Sunni 10% Shias

2018-08-29 22:53:42 UTC  

@Jacob πŸ•‹ You wanna debate tawassul huh?

2018-08-29 22:53:57 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467464675525787658/484495955782270999/DiDMVKuXcAABp_G.png

2018-08-29 22:54:17 UTC  

@carlos firstly it was narrated by Muawiyah who we deem as munafiq

2018-08-29 22:54:52 UTC  

And the Jama'ah is very tangible

2018-08-29 22:55:05 UTC  

Some Akhbaris said that sunnis were kufar

2018-08-29 22:55:22 UTC  

So to them the jama'ah would be shias

2018-08-29 22:55:41 UTC  

But the majority position is that sunnis are Muslim

2018-08-29 22:56:13 UTC  

Ok ok I see

2018-08-29 22:56:17 UTC  

It's grave worship and if you disagree you are wrong
"I asked "The Saudi Ulama say that touching the graves and calling the saints for their blessings is polytheism, so what is your opinion?"
Al-Sayyid al-Sadr replied:
If touching the graves and calling the dead is with the understanding that they could cause harm or render a benefit, then that is polytheism, no doubt about it, the Muslims are monotheists and they know that Allah alone could cause harm or render a benefit, but calling the saints and Imams (may Allah bless them all) with the understanding that they could be an intermediary to Allah, that is not polytheism."
https://www.al-islam.org/sw/node/12750

Yes it is polytheism and this is IJMA as narrated by ibn Hajar that whoever takes an intermediary to Allah is an apostate.
Also I would like to point out the first part of his answer 'it's not polytheism as long as you believe allah is the one behind it', this is always the excuse for every saint worshipping religion. Mary's not all hearing, God just allows her to hear you. However many Shia believe that God already gave power over the entire universe to the Imams, so I mean their argument is literally 'it's not shirk unless you believe they got God's power themselves', and that's just stupid.

2018-08-29 22:56:18 UTC  

Were you born Sunni or Shia ?

2018-08-29 22:56:31 UTC  

Sunni