Message from @carlos
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Seriously why are you Shia
Do you really believe there are 12 occulted Imams who have god-like powers
Also to say that mutah is legalized prostitution is kinda like saying that marriage is legalized fornication, or polygamy is legalized adultery eh
Wdym by occulted Imams?
No it's not the same thing mutah is a temporary marriage only for sex, no ?
It can be for dating too
I don't know it's a thing I saw somewhere occultation or something
The 12th Imam is in occultation yeah
You're a persian right ? Iranian ?
I'm Albanian
Sayyed is Iranian
Ah Shia Albanian weird
True lol
Albanians are usually catholic/muslims and a lot of atheists I'm sure because of past history n communism I think
@Jacob π Sayyed is asking for unban, is that ok with u?
Communism
But also prior to Communism
As long as he keeps politics out of it
There were Austro Hungarian agents
King Zogu was probably a french agent
He banned shariah
Since you're Shia what do you say about this hadith:
It was narrated from Muβaawiyah ibn Abi Sufyaan (may Allaah be pleased with him) that he said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) stood among us and said: βThose who came before you of the people of the Book split into seventy-two sects, and this ummah will split into seventy-three: seventy-two in Hell and one in Paradise, and that is the jamaaβah (main body of Muslims).β
90% of muslims are Sunni 10% Shias
@Jacob π You wanna debate tawassul huh?
And the Jama'ah is very tangible
Some Akhbaris said that sunnis were kufar
So to them the jama'ah would be shias
But the majority position is that sunnis are Muslim
Ok ok I see
It's grave worship and if you disagree you are wrong
"I asked "The Saudi Ulama say that touching the graves and calling the saints for their blessings is polytheism, so what is your opinion?"
Al-Sayyid al-Sadr replied:
If touching the graves and calling the dead is with the understanding that they could cause harm or render a benefit, then that is polytheism, no doubt about it, the Muslims are monotheists and they know that Allah alone could cause harm or render a benefit, but calling the saints and Imams (may Allah bless them all) with the understanding that they could be an intermediary to Allah, that is not polytheism."
https://www.al-islam.org/sw/node/12750
Yes it is polytheism and this is IJMA as narrated by ibn Hajar that whoever takes an intermediary to Allah is an apostate.
Also I would like to point out the first part of his answer 'it's not polytheism as long as you believe allah is the one behind it', this is always the excuse for every saint worshipping religion. Mary's not all hearing, God just allows her to hear you. However many Shia believe that God already gave power over the entire universe to the Imams, so I mean their argument is literally 'it's not shirk unless you believe they got God's power themselves', and that's just stupid.
Were you born Sunni or Shia ?
Sunni