Message from @Josh42A

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2018-12-17 18:50:43 UTC  

It would be "you are wrong because you hold x belief"

2018-12-17 18:51:04 UTC  

that just points towards a bias

2018-12-17 18:51:13 UTC  

hardly constitutes as adhom

2018-12-17 18:51:17 UTC  

It's a type of bias

2018-12-17 18:51:28 UTC  

What you described is insults either way

2018-12-17 18:51:36 UTC  

hurr you're wrong because u read breitbart

2018-12-17 18:51:43 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-17 18:51:46 UTC  

There you go

2018-12-17 18:51:46 UTC  

some truth in there tho

2018-12-17 18:51:52 UTC  

breitbart is retarded

2018-12-17 18:51:53 UTC  

Can be

2018-12-17 18:52:05 UTC  

Not all logical fallacies are bad

2018-12-17 18:52:15 UTC  

Or wrong I should say

2018-12-17 18:52:25 UTC  

slippery slope can apply in a lot of cases

2018-12-17 18:52:34 UTC  

like the degeneration of the society

2018-12-17 18:52:53 UTC  

Depends on the level of correlation

2018-12-17 18:53:24 UTC  

If it's above a 50% correlation than yes

2018-12-17 18:53:54 UTC  

For example queer theroy causing pedophilia

2018-12-17 18:54:15 UTC  

it's not what I'm saying, I'm saying that typically the slippery slope already happened and that saying it won't happen because it's a logical falacy is a bit of a lie

2018-12-17 18:54:40 UTC  

Well yeah that's appeal to stone though

2018-12-17 18:54:54 UTC  

There is also a fallacy fallacy

2018-12-17 18:55:06 UTC  

some meta shit right here

2018-12-17 18:55:56 UTC  

Not really think about a war vs a battle you can lose a single point to a fallacy but your overall idea is not fallacious

2018-12-17 18:57:05 UTC  

They're using the literal definition of ad-hom

2018-12-17 18:57:24 UTC  

It does mean an insult, however, an insult does not become a fallacy until it is used as an argument

2018-12-17 18:57:32 UTC  

I can say Islam is dangerous, all Muslims are terrorists. I've committed a fallacy of composition but to say I'm completely wrong would be false

2018-12-17 18:57:33 UTC  

Calling someone retarded is not a fallacy

2018-12-17 18:57:39 UTC  

Exactly

2018-12-17 18:57:49 UTC  

Shapiro gets it

2018-12-17 18:58:32 UTC  

saying someone is wrong because he is a retard is fallacious tho

2018-12-17 18:58:42 UTC  

Yes

2018-12-17 18:58:52 UTC  

that's what I said initially my friend

2018-12-17 18:59:07 UTC  

But that's an insult not ad hom

2018-12-17 18:59:16 UTC  

go read again

2018-12-17 18:59:19 UTC  

I'm just pointing out that technically ad hom does mean insult, but that doesn't make it a fallacy right away

2018-12-17 18:59:26 UTC  

I dont like the way its defined

2018-12-17 18:59:31 UTC  

it gets misused a lot

2018-12-17 19:00:03 UTC  

An insult is not a fallacy

2018-12-17 19:00:13 UTC  

using it as a reason to dismiss someone, is

2018-12-17 19:00:26 UTC  

Fallacious

2018-12-17 19:00:39 UTC  

but im just going into semantics and getting this off topic