Message from @PunishedMuskovy

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2018-12-09 20:21:40 UTC  

both from outside threats and themselves

2018-12-09 20:21:51 UTC  

Discipline

2018-12-09 20:22:04 UTC  

better question is, is the state just a tool or a divine mandate?

2018-12-09 20:22:10 UTC  

Tool

2018-12-09 20:22:29 UTC  

I beg to differ good sir

2018-12-09 20:22:58 UTC  

a stateless society is a godless one

2018-12-09 20:23:35 UTC  

Statist scum

2018-12-09 20:24:23 UTC  

2018-12-09 20:24:23 UTC  

^uneducated swine, spare us of your irritating comments

2018-12-09 20:25:07 UTC  

i just came here bro 😦

2018-12-09 20:25:21 UTC  

That's 3 of my boys

2018-12-09 20:25:32 UTC  

Stop shilling, Snake

2018-12-09 20:25:34 UTC  

@The Big Oof that border is BASED

2018-12-09 20:25:38 UTC  

NEVER!

2018-12-09 20:25:44 UTC  

the basic role of the state is to provide protection to it's people

2018-12-09 20:25:54 UTC  

@AdorableStormtrooper I'm sorry, not my intention to respond to u

2018-12-09 20:26:03 UTC  

<:GWfroggyPepoSmug:398570232647647242>

2018-12-09 20:26:10 UTC  

The state's primary role is to sustain its own continued existence

2018-12-09 20:26:14 UTC  

@Bird Wizard i know all good 👌

2018-12-09 20:26:21 UTC  

If it can't do that, it shall be replaced

2018-12-09 20:26:22 UTC  

@Ventruvi and what should the state protect its citizens from

2018-12-09 20:26:49 UTC  

Bad goys

2018-12-09 20:27:30 UTC  

Role of a Nation State should be to guarantee the continued existence and reproduction of it's respective Nation

2018-12-09 20:27:35 UTC  

pure survival and continued existence should never be the primary goal

2018-12-09 20:27:44 UTC  

Use the bot room aztec @The Big Oof

2018-12-09 20:27:59 UTC  

by it's nature tho, the State as an organization puts it's own Survival above all else usually

2018-12-09 20:28:08 UTC  

arguing from that view, u can justify anything even mass immigration

2018-12-09 20:28:24 UTC  

yea, if its only goal is

2018-12-09 20:28:27 UTC  

keep the nation going

2018-12-09 20:28:37 UTC  

then what will it sacrifice to achieve those sole goals

2018-12-09 20:28:41 UTC  

i think we have different definitions of Nation

2018-12-09 20:28:49 UTC  

we get a society like ours

2018-12-09 20:29:00 UTC  

keep the goodtimes going no matter how many weak men it creates

2018-12-09 20:29:29 UTC  

i mean Nation in a sense where Nationality and Citizenship are different things, you can be a German National and maybe have Swiss Passport

2018-12-09 20:29:49 UTC  

@AdorableStormtrooper we're talking about nation in terms of a country

2018-12-09 20:30:00 UTC  

The state is the extension of the great leader that created that society under its fist. It's logical that the role of the state should be to unconditionally rule and to expand its society infinitely, crushing every enemy on its way.

2018-12-09 20:30:20 UTC  

but a state should prioritize the safety of its own citizens over others

2018-12-09 20:30:32 UTC  

crushing as in subjecating or pure genocide?

2018-12-09 20:30:57 UTC  

my definition is how it used to be tho like Jews might be citizens of a Place, but their Nationality was always said to be Jewish

2018-12-09 20:31:06 UTC  

ethnicity

2018-12-09 20:31:41 UTC  

nationality, because of the Israels policy towards diaspora