Message from @RealBullWhip

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2018-12-11 17:29:04 UTC  

@Xinyue woah, so anything but free market capitalism isn't Capitalism? you took about the most purist position there out of nowhere lol
i guess I'm no Capitalist now

2018-12-11 17:29:24 UTC  

I meant all of those items. if you have none of those, you don't have capitalism @AdorableStormtrooper

2018-12-11 17:29:29 UTC  

same applies to Marxism

2018-12-11 17:29:37 UTC  

if you have *None* of the listed items, you have no marxism

2018-12-11 17:29:39 UTC  

MOST IMPORTANTLY

2018-12-11 17:29:42 UTC  

marx was essentially right in that capitalism would be used to destroy peoples...not exactly how he predicted

2018-12-11 17:29:45 UTC  

they don't subscribe to historical materialism

2018-12-11 17:29:49 UTC  

All the supposed theories proving cultural Marxism "right"(Frankfurt school,postmodernism ect) don't even support the people pushing this theory

2018-12-11 17:29:50 UTC  

which is like the *lifeblood of Marxism*

2018-12-11 17:30:05 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-11 17:30:08 UTC  

CM is horseshit

2018-12-11 17:30:11 UTC  

Yes, you are confusing a tactic with an ideaology

2018-12-11 17:30:17 UTC  

Cultural Marxism is a tactic

2018-12-11 17:30:20 UTC  

you have no account that their ideology is Marxism

2018-12-11 17:30:21 UTC  

none

2018-12-11 17:30:22 UTC  

in service of an ideaology

2018-12-11 17:30:22 UTC  

Frankfurt School wasn't Marxist tho is that what you're telling me?

2018-12-11 17:30:29 UTC  

Correct

2018-12-11 17:30:33 UTC  

Adorno, Marcuse.. all these people?

2018-12-11 17:30:38 UTC  

Yep

2018-12-11 17:30:41 UTC  

lol ok

2018-12-11 17:30:42 UTC  

there were actually anti-Marxists in Frankfurt School

2018-12-11 17:30:43 UTC  

people say cultural marxism because they are noticing the rise of people who call themselves communist

2018-12-11 17:30:44 UTC  

😐

2018-12-11 17:30:45 UTC  

no joke

2018-12-11 17:30:47 UTC  

ie blue hairs

2018-12-11 17:30:52 UTC  

and they have the same views

2018-12-11 17:30:52 UTC  

I'm sure there were

2018-12-11 17:30:55 UTC  

but we don't know them

2018-12-11 17:30:59 UTC  

because they don't matter

2018-12-11 17:31:08 UTC  
2018-12-11 17:31:27 UTC  

thats really the origin of the term, it also sounds like it came from the same crowd who formed r/the_donald

2018-12-11 17:31:41 UTC  

People who's work did make influence, were at the time or former Marxists

2018-12-11 17:31:47 UTC  

I've seen right wingers accuse adorno of being some commie who wanted to subvery culture when he was actually very anti consumerism

2018-12-11 17:32:04 UTC  

was

2018-12-11 17:32:07 UTC  

or is

2018-12-11 17:32:07 UTC  

Zizek, arguably the leading Marxist thinker of our times, explicitly for example characterised Frankfurt school as "anticommunists" - and I would agree with that summation. Yugomarxist scholars like Mihailo Markovic (who btw makes for an *excellent* read - much recommended) were extremely harsh for it too

2018-12-11 17:32:23 UTC  

Was as in he is dead @PunishedMuskovy

2018-12-11 17:32:53 UTC  

Cultural Marxism is essnetially Marxism for the Post Modernist age

2018-12-11 17:32:54 UTC  

oh

2018-12-11 17:32:55 UTC  

Zizek is an Atheist Pro Race Mixing Sexual Revolution Supporting Degenerate