Message from @The Real Head Honcho
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@Deleted User it's effectively anti collectivism
Imagine not being a collectivist
Imagine actually being a fucking (((kulak)))
@The Real Head Honcho imagine thinking the kulaks were the bad guys
>thinking otherwise
Oh dear.
They were mostly Ukrainians.
Kulaks were just greedy Ukrainian peasants who had for the first time been given a lot and let their families and friends die off so they could hoard an extra sack
They are the definition of social parasites
Yes mostly Ukrainian successful farmers
No
If they weren't Ukrainians I would care.
They replaced the Russian nobility
They weren't "successful" farmers
They replaced the nobility as small scale land barons, using other peasants as effectively slave labourers
Like the nobles had before the serfs were emancipated in 1861
The Kulaks did very little actual work themselves and just took the form of rich peasants that got rich via the expense of other peasants
Which led the country to multiple famines
First off I've seen no evidence of this, second that does not give these people the right to kill them
Including the holodomor
Sure, the state could've alleviated it to a degree, but they'd been teetering on the brink of starvation since lenin's implementation of War communism in 1918 and the New Economic Policy in 1921
They had very little grain in reserves to stop the famine
The Kulaks, on the other hand, consumed or burned or killed their stocks
I believe the estimate is 27 million livestock slaughtered rather than be given to the collective farm program
And an untold amount of grain hoarded, consumed and burned
Rather than be given away
What are Ukrainians?
And as for "evidence", literally just look at Russian farming methods after 1861
You mean stolen?
@εïз irma εïз what do you mean what are Ukrainians
Russians spelled with different letters
I mean what are they?
@Scipio Americanus stolen by who?
I have Googled this s*** many a time, I've seen no evidence of this still
The state
Stolypin's attempted land reforms were literally designed to combat the problem of a Kulak agriculture
And as for the state "stealing" the agriculture and livestock
Still no answer. What are Ukrainians? <:lol:521377935672737792>
The land was owned by the state, the state was either at war or suffering from horrendous post-war shortage, and the machines and tools used to harvest and cultivate the agricultural produce was provided by the state
The Kulak populations were exploitative and greedy, nothing more