Including the holodomor

the kulaks are literally one of the main causers of the Holodomor

Sure, the state could've alleviated it to a degree, but they'd been teetering on the brink of starvation since lenin's implementation of War communism in 1918 and the New Economic Policy in 1921

They had very little grain in reserves to stop the famine

The Kulaks, on the other hand, consumed or burned or killed their stocks

I believe the estimate is 27 million livestock slaughtered rather than be given to the collective farm program

And an untold amount of grain hoarded, consumed and burned

Rather than be given away

What are Ukrainians?

And as for "evidence", literally just look at Russian farming methods after 1861

You mean stolen?

@εïз irma εïз what do you mean what are Ukrainians

Russians spelled with different letters

I mean what are they?

@Scipio Americanus stolen by who?

I have Googled this s*** many a time, I've seen no evidence of this still

The state

Stolypin's attempted land reforms were literally designed to combat the problem of a Kulak agriculture

And as for the state "stealing" the agriculture and livestock

Still no answer. What are Ukrainians? <:lol:521377935672737792>

The land was owned by the state, the state was either at war or suffering from horrendous post-war shortage, and the machines and tools used to harvest and cultivate the agricultural produce was provided by the state

The Kulak populations were exploitative and greedy, nothing more

They were a problem recognised as early as the 1880s

@εïз irma εïз people who aren't Russians

Vyshnegradsky tried to combat it unsuccessfully which led to the 1892 famine

Romanians and Ukrainians should all be deported to Pacific islands.

He was replaced by Witte who also tried, but to little success

Then Stolypin tried land reform which would've worked better, and was similar to the idea of the Kolkhoz, but he was killed in 1911

The Kulak problem was not a soviet problem

It had been present for a good 50 years by the time Collectivism was implemented in 1929

@The Real Head Honcho sure buddy, keep on thinking that, but I can tell you I won't be killing any my livestock for greedy reasons

I like your username but your profile picture is deeply unsettling.

And even after collectivization and the liquidation of the kulaks, there was huge agricultural issue all the way until the dissolution of the USSR

stalin did the best work for the agriculture

Nah

Khrushchev didn't do much with new ideas but expanded on what was there

And Brezhnev pissed it away like everything else

Gorbachev did the best

But the problem was never solved

@Mairon this tbh bring back gorbachev and let him break apart the world

Yes