But they forget that at Teheran in 43 Roosevelt literally speaks up in the middle of a conference, completely unnanounced and says

"The war will not end without complete unconditional surrender"

(Which churchill, to his credit, was extremely pissed off at him for)

i like how the allies had a show no mercy and total war policy but its only bad when the nazis do it

Roosevelt wanted Germany removed as an economic threat years before the war began and he used Russian and British bodies to do it

war crimes for thee but not for me

Yeah exactly

Yeah I mean the Nazis minus Roosevelt being a cuck could have snagged a nice peace treaty

Guys ignore the soviet hordes raping and murdering across the east, and ignore the bomber campaign to flatten Germany

DA JOOOOOOOOOS@

@Mairon Germany offered a *COMPLETE* withdrawal from France and a peace treaty with no concessions with the west on the condition they allowed Germany to invade the soviets

4 times

Before June 1941

So within the space of a year, 4 offers were made

All were refused by Churchill

Also fun fact

Poland really wasn't worth it lol

The royal family invited Hess to the British Isles but he fucked the flight plan up, and Goring knew about it which is why he didnt shoot him down when "ordered" to

Sad Sea lion couldn't happen though

So when he was caught and arrested the royals swept it all under the rug

Yeah no that was unfeasible until at least like, 1943

Germany didn't have the troop transports for it

And useless in 1943

Yeah by 42 there was no point

And honestly, the Western Front really did not do much until March 1945

The Soviets would have just gotten everything

At which point the war was well and truly over

If Germany sealioned after 43

Mmhm

the axis were put in almost unwinnable odds and i think they knew that very well

Sad hitler y did u not win war

Yeah the Axis did astoundingly well

Well, you say that

I mean Germany occupied most of Europe

If Italy hadn't invaded the fucking greeks in May 41

It may have gone a lot differently

the Italians delayed barbarossa for 2-3 months, the best months of the year

The Germans were ready to go in late april

If Italy didn't exist the Germans would have won

im pretty sure had the US stayed out and Italy had more competent military leadership it would've been much more possible

@Mairon Italy is a military blight