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2018-12-16 15:25:25 UTC  

it will be brilliant

2018-12-16 15:25:28 UTC  

no doubt

2018-12-16 15:26:09 UTC  

^

2018-12-16 15:26:10 UTC  

indeed

2018-12-16 15:26:21 UTC  

but Fingolia shall avenge Mongolia along our Kazakh brethren

2018-12-16 15:27:15 UTC  

Mongolia is pretty fucked to be honest, in just about every respect from language to culture etc.

2018-12-16 15:27:18 UTC  

which is sad to see

2018-12-16 15:28:18 UTC  

used to be one of the great cultures in the world, and now much of it has been lost

2018-12-16 15:28:42 UTC  

partly that was due to the People's Republic period which wasn't the kindest to the native culture

2018-12-16 15:29:23 UTC  

holy shit fins

2018-12-16 15:29:27 UTC  

πŸ˜„

2018-12-16 15:29:30 UTC  

i know right

2018-12-16 15:29:35 UTC  

literally not white

I would say it's most the fault of the Qing Empire with their policy of Han invasion with Sovietfication during Cold War

2018-12-16 15:30:31 UTC  

but yeah there was quite a bit of Russification going on during the communist era of Mongolia. But nevertheless, Mongolia maintained a very ethnocentric image during the communist period, it wasn't true Russification in the complete meaning of the term

Surprinsingly Inner Mongolia knows more about Mongolia history and culture than Outer Mongolia

2018-12-16 15:31:37 UTC  

also the Han culture of PRC has become downgraded in that they lost much of their own culture and somehow thought that downgrading the writing system into the "simplified" characters (which often just lose most of their original meaning in the process) was a good idea

a lot of the dialects were lost in Mongolia, in favor of a united culture a language, were in Inner it remained with their respectful differences

2018-12-16 15:32:14 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-16 15:32:35 UTC  

the People's Republic wasn't all bad though, tbh. It did probably make Mongolia the strongest it had been in centuries

Some commie say that without the work of Mao, China wouldn't be capable of rapid industrialization under Xi Jiping, even if that's true, the cost of cultures being lost was far to great in my opinion

I mostly dislike the People's Republic because of Xinjiang,Inner Mongolia and Hannification, overall they are decent enough

2018-12-16 15:35:14 UTC  

eh, I think that Maoists are generally speaking wrong. Yes, China couldn't have advanced as fast as it did if it weren't for Mao's policies. However, it was an incredibly mixed bag - some good, common sense policies yielded great benefits but others, like Great Leap Forward, were just fucking brainlet attempts at modernising that obviously were going to fail and did fail with catastrophic consequences

2018-12-16 15:36:11 UTC  

soviet russia industrialized rapidly under stalin but it was still shitty

It is similar to what happened in Albania, Hoxhaism did some good, but the cost of State Atheism was great

2018-12-16 15:38:37 UTC  

oh yeah Hoxhaism wasn't very good either

2018-12-16 15:40:47 UTC  

yugoslavia industrilized under tito as well but I still stand that the yugo would be better off under a king and as a monarchy in post ww2 period

2018-12-16 15:41:21 UTC  

Hoxha *did* upgrade many infrastructural aspects and distribute services to an improved standard, but I think that it was a net negative in the end for Albania

2018-12-16 15:41:52 UTC  

Tito's form of communism was probably the ideal way for Yugo, esp. after WW2

2018-12-16 15:41:55 UTC  

no way around it

2018-12-16 15:42:00 UTC  

and I'm glad it went down that path,

2018-12-16 15:42:21 UTC  

even if I have left Titoism, tenets of which I used to adhere to before, I still have immense respect for SFRY

2018-12-16 15:42:29 UTC  

and would like to replicate many aspects of its system

2018-12-16 15:43:23 UTC  

at this point I think I can be called a Khrushchevite of some kind