Message from @Spookaswa

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2018-12-17 06:00:13 UTC  

IDEOLOGICAL CORRECTION

2018-12-17 06:00:19 UTC  

I dislike Maoism but honestly fuck it, I hope these guys win

2018-12-17 06:00:39 UTC  

and they literally speak of the Wall in relation to the ruling elites. That is, as something they'd be pressed against when executed

2018-12-17 06:01:01 UTC  

I wonder how they are doing now

2018-12-17 06:01:13 UTC  

I haven't heard much since 2008. But then again, being repressed, it makes sense

2018-12-17 06:02:15 UTC  

When you think of what the CPC is doing, with population control, the absolute party and security forces control of all aspects of society, the usage of technology to keep tabs on *everyone* - its not going to last

2018-12-17 06:02:31 UTC  

and they are doing this because they know that the discontent is on the rise

2018-12-17 06:02:46 UTC  

there was a study that found that there are about *on average* 180,000 mass protests across China every year

2018-12-17 06:02:52 UTC  

I think it was in 2007

2018-12-17 06:03:06 UTC  

Free Tibet

2018-12-17 06:03:07 UTC  

Ching Chong ping pong

2018-12-17 06:03:55 UTC  

I saw

2018-12-17 06:04:09 UTC  

the one concern is that when PRC does fall apart, it will be the most spectacular event of the century so far, and it won't be smooth like in USSR. I think it will be very, very violent

2018-12-17 06:04:24 UTC  

Oh yeah

2018-12-17 06:04:30 UTC  

The market will be fucked too

2018-12-17 06:04:33 UTC  

yes

2018-12-17 06:04:39 UTC  

it will send shockwaves around the globe

2018-12-17 06:04:55 UTC  

Great Depression 2 electric boogaloo

2018-12-17 06:04:58 UTC  

<:hangthink:520000469532278788>

2018-12-17 06:05:13 UTC  

lmao

2018-12-17 06:05:19 UTC  

I mean

2018-12-17 06:05:32 UTC  

Were already not that far off from having the 2020s be a repeat of the 1930s

2018-12-17 06:05:53 UTC  

Yeah and in actual fact the markets didn't ever really recover from 2008

2018-12-17 06:05:56 UTC  

not in any substantial way

2018-12-17 06:06:03 UTC  

mhm

2018-12-17 06:06:54 UTC  

The Neoliberal age draws near to its end, but its unclear what emerges from the other side of the capitalist paradigm. There are a few possibilities and most of them are not pleasant

2018-12-17 06:07:11 UTC  

Yeah

2018-12-17 06:07:24 UTC  

Unless the Neoliberals try to double down and go full 1984

2018-12-17 06:08:56 UTC  

Well that is one possibility. I think that, if things continue as they do, the capitalist class will eventually have sufficient degree of automation and AI to provide them with self-sufficiency in production and industry, meaning that they will largely become independent of society at large and society at large (that is, including the state) become completely dependent on them.

In this case the capitalist himself dissolves capitalism, and becomes almost a new feudal lord in this techno-feudal dystopia that would emerge on the basis of the current productive relations and their clash with emerging technologies.

2018-12-17 06:09:32 UTC  

yep

2018-12-17 06:09:58 UTC  

then the ex neoliberals, now economic serfs can have their v for vendetta

2018-12-17 06:10:27 UTC  

Time to start working on those homemade EMP Grenades <:lol:521377935672737792>

2018-12-17 06:11:06 UTC  

This is the reason why there's no future without socialism. You need socialism as instrumental part of whatever future paradigm you choose. Now, there's very broad scope of socialist options available, but you *need* joint ownership of the means of production at the direction of the whole people as a *necessary ingredient* in any worthwhile future society plan.

2018-12-17 06:11:26 UTC  

nah

2018-12-17 06:13:59 UTC  

Its also the ongoing technological shift which provides Marxians and the communists the necessary tools to win this century. It will be hard but the case is very easily presentable. Lamentably enough our window of opportunity was really 20th century, that was the golden moment with USSR and all.

2018-12-17 06:15:03 UTC  

>why did stalin have to die, he was about to achieve global communism

2018-12-17 06:15:20 UTC  

Eh, the hope was lost in 1980s

2018-12-17 06:15:28 UTC  

not when Stalin died

2018-12-17 06:15:38 UTC  

What about Fascism? Communism isn't really appealing to the right wing

2018-12-17 06:16:20 UTC  

Fascism is wholly insufficient in addressing any of the pressing needs that must be addressed. Only Socialism or Communism, *by the virtue of how society is fundamentally organised in these systems,* can address the problems of our time.

2018-12-17 06:16:45 UTC  

tbh I'd rather kym before advocating for collectivising the means of production. it's like asking more deaths and more suffering