the Empire was stagnant and was going nowhere

The empire was stable until the emancipation and liberalisation

Yeah the 1890’s boom wouldn’t have happened without emancipation

Yes, they were behind, but a gradual transition would have helped them catch up

The emancipation was the most ill-conceived, badly implemented solution to the problem possible

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And emancipation has already taken place in certain parts of the empire, namely the Baltic provinces as well as the former peasants of church land

Not to mention the fact that the Nobles, who at the very least kept a lid on things, were now replaced by Kulaks

Who were literally just peasants that exploited the vacuum

"the Empire was stagnant and was going nowhere" That's bullshit. Also fun to hear that from a Soviet fan.

no u

The empire was stagnant, sure

And was falling behind

Wrong

Do i need to get my big book of statistics?

Do i really need to do that at 6:45am?

Because i will

Put your dick away I was talking to the guy who said no u

Sure

> And emancipation has already taken place in certain parts of the empire, namely the Baltic provinces as well as the former peasants of church land

yes and also Grand Duchy of Finland had no slaves to speak of, at any point, as it operated on an entirely different, much more Western Enlightenment type system

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@εïз irma εïз im confused are we saying that russia was stagnant or that it wasnt

Yeah Finland under the empire was weird

Who are you agreeing with

I'm a fence sitter

Based

Finland had its own senate, army, laws, borders, taxes, currency 😄 it was fun times

I didn’t say Finland because it never had serfs to begin with so there was no emancipation

Nothing matters but spiritual purification through holy war

I wouldnt say it was crumbling by any means, but it was certainly lagging behind

There hadn't been an industrial revolution, the state was an agrarian one and infrastructure was weak or non-existent

HOWEVER

The state itself was very strong internally

And there was not even any kind of major brewing anti-tsarist movement until after the emancipation

Oh the Empire was strong with repression sure. No doubt about this - it was the originator of forerunners of both the gulag and the NKVD

You mean the Okhrana and the exile system?

Yeah it doesnt take a genius to see the links