Message from @The Real Head Honcho

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2018-12-17 06:46:39 UTC  

You mean the Okhrana and the exile system?

2018-12-17 06:46:46 UTC  

Yeah it doesnt take a genius to see the links

2018-12-17 06:46:56 UTC  

yeah, the Soviet forms were intensifications of those, but they were the original forms

2018-12-17 06:46:59 UTC  

Only difference is the soviets had more guns

2018-12-17 06:47:05 UTC  

ye

2018-12-17 06:47:06 UTC  

And more fences

2018-12-17 06:47:15 UTC  

probably wasn't the best idea to sent Stalin to labour colonies

2018-12-17 06:47:24 UTC  

Plus, the gulag system was an actual labour system

2018-12-17 06:47:30 UTC  

Rather than just "okay you live here now lol"

2018-12-17 06:47:34 UTC  

Soviets didn't make situation any better. Most of what Soviets achieved was laid down by the Imperials and was carried out very badly. Soviets ruined and betrayed the country and caused most of Russia's modern problems.

2018-12-17 06:47:35 UTC  

yeah tbh

2018-12-17 06:47:43 UTC  

Lenin? Sure

2018-12-17 06:47:45 UTC  

Stalin? God no

2018-12-17 06:48:02 UTC  

Uh....the Soviets made Russia what it is today, in more ways than one can count

2018-12-17 06:48:07 UTC  

Stalin > Lenin I say this as a man who dislikes both.

2018-12-17 06:48:08 UTC  

Stalin literally rebuilt the system from the ground up and burned anything that wouldn't comply

2018-12-17 06:48:10 UTC  

like they literally made it into a great power

2018-12-17 06:48:18 UTC  

as opposed to a "great-ish power that loses to Japan"

2018-12-17 06:48:22 UTC  

Lenin was an incompetent economist and statesman

2018-12-17 06:48:32 UTC  

He was a man of ideology not a man of politics or economics

2018-12-17 06:48:36 UTC  

He showed that very clearly

2018-12-17 06:48:40 UTC  

@Xinyue It would be better if the Imperials continued what they're doing.

2018-12-17 06:48:52 UTC  

As for stuff being laid down by imperials

2018-12-17 06:49:09 UTC  

Lenin was a revolutionary philosopher first and foremost yes. He created the USSR, but the task of completing revolution in practical terms fell to his followers, inheritors of his mantle.

2018-12-17 06:49:12 UTC  

If Stolypin hadn't been assassinated in 1911, and his agriculture reforms had been given another few years

2018-12-17 06:49:13 UTC  

Yeah, maybe

2018-12-17 06:49:28 UTC  

But as it was there wasn't much at all to work with other than Witte's scramble for industrial reform

2018-12-17 06:49:34 UTC  

Which was hardly monumental

2018-12-17 06:49:40 UTC  

😎 😎 😎

2018-12-17 06:49:46 UTC  

White Army was gay

2018-12-17 06:49:48 UTC  

go away Cake

2018-12-17 06:49:57 UTC  

Also he Lenin ruined the remains of the Russian economy and industry

2018-12-17 06:50:01 UTC  

Absolutely trashed it

2018-12-17 06:50:19 UTC  

If the White army was gay then the Red army was tranny.

2018-12-17 06:50:22 UTC  

Imperial soldiers responded "quite so" or "not quite so" instead of yes and no sir.

2018-12-17 06:50:32 UTC  

how about this

2018-12-17 06:50:40 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/507035890640486411/524116203241996288/autis.jpg

2018-12-17 06:50:40 UTC  

The entire russian civil war was a clusterfuck