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Nothing matters but spiritual purification through holy war
I wouldnt say it was crumbling by any means, but it was certainly lagging behind
There hadn't been an industrial revolution, the state was an agrarian one and infrastructure was weak or non-existent
HOWEVER
The state itself was very strong internally
And there was not even any kind of major brewing anti-tsarist movement until after the emancipation
Oh the Empire was strong with repression sure. No doubt about this - it was the originator of forerunners of both the gulag and the NKVD
You mean the Okhrana and the exile system?
Yeah it doesnt take a genius to see the links
yeah, the Soviet forms were intensifications of those, but they were the original forms
Only difference is the soviets had more guns
ye
And more fences
probably wasn't the best idea to sent Stalin to labour colonies
Plus, the gulag system was an actual labour system
Rather than just "okay you live here now lol"
Soviets didn't make situation any better. Most of what Soviets achieved was laid down by the Imperials and was carried out very badly. Soviets ruined and betrayed the country and caused most of Russia's modern problems.
yeah tbh
Lenin? Sure
Uh....the Soviets made Russia what it is today, in more ways than one can count
Stalin > Lenin I say this as a man who dislikes both.
Stalin literally rebuilt the system from the ground up and burned anything that wouldn't comply
like they literally made it into a great power
as opposed to a "great-ish power that loses to Japan"
Lenin was an incompetent economist and statesman
He was a man of ideology not a man of politics or economics
He showed that very clearly
@Xinyue It would be better if the Imperials continued what they're doing.
As for stuff being laid down by imperials
Lenin was a revolutionary philosopher first and foremost yes. He created the USSR, but the task of completing revolution in practical terms fell to his followers, inheritors of his mantle.
If Stolypin hadn't been assassinated in 1911, and his agriculture reforms had been given another few years
Yeah, maybe
But as it was there wasn't much at all to work with other than Witte's scramble for industrial reform
Which was hardly monumental
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White Army was gay
go away Cake
Also he Lenin ruined the remains of the Russian economy and industry