Message from @Roki, Elector of Yang

Discord ID: 526061095690043392


2018-12-22 15:34:30 UTC  

Why is some people dying because they couldn't afford healthcare, always a bad thing?

2018-12-22 15:34:39 UTC  

thank you for making my point

2018-12-22 15:35:21 UTC  

^^^^

2018-12-22 15:35:37 UTC  

When even the Monarchist agrees with the Commie

2018-12-22 15:35:41 UTC  

This is the thing mate, your system is unnatural.. you will interfere with the process of natural selection, like we currently do with the Welfare State.

2018-12-22 15:35:48 UTC  

thats when you know you've gone off the fucking base yes 😄 @Filthy Frank

2018-12-22 15:36:04 UTC  

When I asked if people will get things without working, you said no, you lie :/

2018-12-22 15:36:17 UTC  

I give you the rank of "Good Commie" @Xinyue

2018-12-22 15:36:25 UTC  

ooh

2018-12-22 15:36:27 UTC  

thx m8

2018-12-22 15:36:32 UTC  

No problem

2018-12-22 15:36:45 UTC  

You will degenerate society as time passes by, this is why your system isnt Sustainable even if you got it.

2018-12-22 15:36:59 UTC  

@AdorableStormtrooper literally nobody will refuse to work until they starve to death, that's not how human psyche fucking works 😄

2018-12-22 15:37:14 UTC  

yeah they will "work"

2018-12-22 15:37:41 UTC  

Lmao

2018-12-22 15:37:59 UTC  

Millions of kulaks died in the Soviet Union because they refused to work on collectivised farms

2018-12-22 15:38:09 UTC  

-not how human psyche works

2018-12-22 15:38:38 UTC  

if you think all homeless people on the street are totally employable and are homeless through no fault of their own... you are pretty much detatched from reality.

2018-12-22 15:38:38 UTC  

Capitalism is one of the newest economic systems and you call Socialism "Unnatural."

2018-12-22 15:38:45 UTC  

in reality it will be like this:

A: "Hey man I'm hungry, can I get some food?"
B: "Yeah but you gotta work first"
A: "No gibs me"
B: "Yes, but first log into your local Soviet and do something"
A: "No, GIBS!
B: "Work first"
A: "Fak u oppressor"
B: "Wanna starve?"
A: ".....not really tbh"
B: "Thought so. Now, to the Soviet u go"
A: "Kden"

That's how the exchange actually would go

2018-12-22 15:38:58 UTC  

Human psyche forms hierarchies, communism is a complete misinterpretation

2018-12-22 15:39:20 UTC  

I don't think those kulaks died "just because they refused to work in kolkhoses".

2018-12-22 15:39:43 UTC  

The Soviets sent them to labor camps if they didn’t work of their own accord

2018-12-22 15:40:02 UTC  

@Xinyue they have to know how to work first, there are plenty organizations who will put homeless people into contact with employers.. these people just don't take the opportunity, there are people who are unemployable

2018-12-22 15:40:03 UTC  

The persecutions were also against generational wealthy peasants and just people who weren't kulaks but were wealthier than others.

2018-12-22 15:40:21 UTC  

@AdorableStormtrooper there are often psychological problems involved, which must be taken care of first

2018-12-22 15:40:33 UTC  

It was just like the situation with peasants ratting out other peasants due to jealousy or ideological reasons.

2018-12-22 15:41:12 UTC  

It wasn't even close to being as clean-cut as "hey if you don't work on this farm you'll die. Ok, better die then!"

2018-12-22 15:41:16 UTC  

And the kulak stuff happened mostly in the early phase, 1930s, it didn't happen again especially after Stalin it was fairly absent. The "muh kulaks" case is a bad example and doesn't apply throughout the history of the Soviet system

2018-12-22 15:41:35 UTC  

there are homeless even in countries where healthcare is free and they can get mental help... you don't understand how degenerate people can become..

2018-12-22 15:41:42 UTC  

Most of them weren't even given a choice like that. The purges were sudden and the peasants weren't informed.

2018-12-22 15:42:15 UTC  

The ones that did give their stuff in were informed of the impeding purges by other peasants, not authorities.

2018-12-22 15:42:15 UTC  

I do understand. And you help them the best you can. Very few people become permanently deranged, and mental health care and treatments are bound to get progressively powerful in terms of effective patient outcomes

2018-12-22 15:42:47 UTC  

we have already discovered very interesting aspects about the neurobiology of multiple mental health diseases in the past 1 decade

2018-12-22 15:42:56 UTC  

these will yield us some new applications for treatment

2018-12-22 15:43:22 UTC  

or

2018-12-22 15:43:31 UTC  

we can just let nature do it's job

2018-12-22 15:43:36 UTC  

WOW THIS IS SO COOL BULLWHIP

2018-12-22 15:43:41 UTC  

CONTROVERSIAL

2018-12-22 15:43:44 UTC  

BBASED