but it was ultimately the culture, not the law, that made it not a problem. we saw prohibition was a complete failure

objectively, drug prohibition has been a total failure too

I have to put on the bow tie for this one. It is all about supply and demand. If there's Heroin from Iran and Meth from Mexico then people are going to do it regardless of the law or culture. Weed is very tricky because it can't be shut out of borders.

meth can be made here and we have pharmacies distributing tablet heroin

I think the key is a healthy society and a strong economy, then people don't feel like they have nothing left to lose

if they have a bad injury and are on pain killers, they see a reason to get off

I agree but I'm talking about street drugs. Of course that does include pharmaceuticals so wtf am I talking about.

Drug addicts get the rope.

yea, I mean I see your point but our current situation isn't that nicely divided

Opportunity cost is a powerful thing.

True

we have legal channels making addicts who then turn to the black market mainly out of price concerns

Maybe social ostracism could work in some way.

with opiates anyway

I think social ostracism is far more powerful with addicts than the threat of the rope

they clearly don't fear death, they're tangling with it every day

I think most humans do fear being completely shut out of any social group

In Singapore they used to whip people for drug abuse in public. But I don't know if they still do that.

that's much closer to social ostracism than anything we do

Yeah we just sort of turn our heads.

certainly a hell of a lot cheaper than our DEA budget

Trump specifically mentioned the weakened borders during the presser about drugs

that's good

I think he's using the drugs as further justification for the wall

And he asked the dea to confirm, which they did

it's part of the case he's building

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They found a huge meth cache that was en route to a city near me carried by a bunch of illegals.

No wonder it's been so bad in my state.

they snagged a few hundred pounds off I-5 in san diego a few weeks ago

wew lad

I forget if it was 200lbs or 200 kilos

but I remember 200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ8NvWvMF-I

I think Trump is going to find the US Government is complicit in a lot of the drug problems

as far as the supply routes

I suspect a lot of the CIA's overseas operations are funded partially by drug trafficking in some way

lots of blind eyes being turned, which makes the USG complict IMO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1AeBgalFZk

@Convo I think enjoyed that video more than any normal person should

Oscilloscope visualizations of music will always do this to me...