Message from @CronoSaturn

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Because every choice of a new ruler is a risk, a new President could fuck us all, a new Dictator could fuck everything up, a Prince groomed from start is the safest choice

2019-01-11 23:23:51 UTC  

all religions are inherently assertive/violent

2019-01-11 23:23:58 UTC  

you'll never have a peaceful one

2019-01-11 23:24:05 UTC  

Bhudaism?

2019-01-11 23:24:21 UTC  

@Bird Wizard You can burn at the stake.

2019-01-11 23:24:28 UTC  

^'

2019-01-11 23:25:06 UTC  

philosophy is one of peace, in practice u get your typical human behavior

2019-01-11 23:26:14 UTC  

right, peace is not in line with nature

2019-01-11 23:26:21 UTC  

Fearlessness is great for the combat that naturally exists in a worldful of tribes with conflicting interests

2019-01-11 23:26:28 UTC  

yes it is

2019-01-11 23:26:39 UTC  

@π•Ώπ–”π–™π–†π–‘π–Žπ–™π–†π–—π–Žπ–†π–“ π•²π–—π–†π–“π–‰π–†π–‰π–‰π–‰π–ž not all princes are groomed from birth though and not all princes are willing or capable of carrying out their duty as they are required to. take commodus for example.

2019-01-11 23:26:42 UTC  

Even the most violent creatures need rest

2019-01-11 23:26:44 UTC  

As a Christian, I admit that most religions have been violent. Most of them are dead now, however. Though some remain that actively proclaim violence in the name of the divine; **Islam.**

2019-01-11 23:27:09 UTC  

@CronoSaturn That is why you sometimes skip the oldest son, and go to the next one.

2019-01-11 23:27:26 UTC  

^

2019-01-11 23:27:27 UTC  

right but how is that determined in a monarchical system?

2019-01-11 23:27:37 UTC  

Religion is violent because man is violent

2019-01-11 23:27:45 UTC  

@Deleted User eternal peace is not

2019-01-11 23:29:22 UTC  

@Bearer Of The Curse fearlessness is venerated. if it's not, your religion dies

2019-01-11 23:30:46 UTC  

unless its too fearless. then it dies anyway

2019-01-11 23:31:23 UTC  

u get suicide bombings and setting yourself aflame

2019-01-11 23:32:29 UTC  

right but its important to remember that in a religious context that those *could* be valid actions so long as they gather more adherents

2019-01-11 23:33:13 UTC  

not everything is about gathering adherents

2019-01-11 23:34:52 UTC  

right but in terms of a religions survival or practice enlightenment is only valid so long as it draws people to the faith. your religion could be as enlightened as it could be but if theres no-one practicing it, it doesnt exist

2019-01-11 23:35:27 UTC  

Well, you do not people to be drawn to the faith if you do it by the sword.

2019-01-11 23:35:46 UTC  

you're concerned about optics of the act itself. religions are not concerned about that, given enough time it gets memory holed

2019-01-11 23:35:51 UTC  

Look at the Caliphates, the Roman Empire, Scandinavia...

2019-01-11 23:35:58 UTC  

it can, especially if your not the person being hit by the sword

2019-01-11 23:36:11 UTC  

Fair.

2019-01-11 23:36:46 UTC  

ill put a caveat on my point though in that absolute numbers of religious adherents doesnt make a faith any more or less viable

2019-01-11 23:37:09 UTC  

the word tends to attract followers, in order to spread word u can't be oppressed by another religion

2019-01-11 23:37:43 UTC  

at least not sufficiently to prevent you doing so

2019-01-11 23:37:57 UTC  

ew

2019-01-11 23:37:59 UTC  

christians

2019-01-11 23:38:08 UTC  

go away muhamed