i didnt say you have to like ti

im just saying its western

and if you want to define "The West" as the contemporary prevailing culture in most of these societies, Drug Culture, Porn, Sexual Liberalization are also "The West" and part of it's Culture

I want NOTHING to do with that.

thats fair.

Let it burn and die for all I care

but that culture seems to be thriving

lol

low birth rates, hight muder rates drug abuse, rapes, alcohol abuse, depression , suicide, broken families, low employment

Now that is progress!

That is a discontinuity from the Past.. and given that Western Nations are replacing themselves with a Culture that is diametrically opposed to this, I wouldn't say it's exactly thriving.

To say degeneracy is thriving at any point in time is like taking a Stainless Steel Scale and bending it in front of your face saying.. well, it's ok so far...

employment is the highest its been in the west, americas unemployment rate has been decreasing year on year since 2010

money doesn't solve every problem.

this is just shallow thinking.

even if that were true all the other problems are still taking a huge tool

alcohol and drug abuse, depression, suicide and broken families are in many ways literally first world problems in that theyre only problems that present themselves where there arnt more pressing problems and other cultures seem to be coping with this shift much more poorly

exactly my point, money doesn't solve every problem.

in fact, sometimes it very much creates and exacerbates them

additionally in terms of drug and alcohol abuse the west has made ardent strides and negative birthrates arnt a problem in america

also gercek your being inconsistant

your criticism was low employment, now you accept that its high

Dostoevsky describes families torn appart by abuse in his novels though, so not true

either its a problem or its not

at what point did i mention employment at all?

correction, sd did

also krille raises the point that much of those numbers are increases in reporting and the availability of better management

The scales are different. This is usually a cop out.

today rather than having to sell you child into prostitution because your father is an alcoholic, as is shown as a case in crime and punishment, you can seek help and a divorce

I'm not saying you do this but people love to do this, there was Homosexuality mentioned in some literature from 14th century England, so it must've been common.

its not common now though

There are a lot of quantitative evidence that shows abuse isn't a 1-world problem

Too

Societal Decay has existed throughout time, you can never eliminate it just like you can never eliminate friction completely.. but never at any point in time has Sexual Degeneracy for example been normalized in Culture.

Define "degeneracy". The Greeks and Romans had morals regarding sexuality, sure, but they still buttfucked little boys ad infinitum

the carthaginians also had prositutes as holy women

At the end they did have a Family none the less.

we have a family now

how wholesome

So, if you're concerned with that, just let faggots adopt.

which also has the benefit of taking some kids out of the carousel of foster care