Message from @CronoSaturn

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2019-01-12 19:44:03 UTC  

Young men are being trained by the way society operates that they are better off never marrying

2019-01-12 19:44:07 UTC  

im not aware of the stats but lets remember that in america alone theres, what, 300million people? something doesnt need to be common to happen all the time

2019-01-12 19:44:31 UTC  

Getting married is a huge liability to them and could spell total financial ruin.

2019-01-12 19:44:42 UTC  

and while divorce rates in america last time i checked is edging 50% in australia its 30%

2019-01-12 19:44:54 UTC  

50% divorce rate is ABYSMAL.

2019-01-12 19:44:56 UTC  

```i dont think keeping a family together who actively hates and is destroying itself is a winning project. I agree that the way divorce is handled could be improved, i agree people could seek more meaningful relationships, im not saying our current position isnt without challenges, but i do believe its the best alternative currently available```

the assumption that all or even most divorces are born out of situation where husband and wife actively hate each other 24/7 in ways that are completely irreconcilable in the future is unproven.

2019-01-12 19:45:19 UTC  

Flip a coin, if tails you're a slave

2019-01-12 19:45:36 UTC  

It's not really a surprise that men have said fuck that

2019-01-12 19:45:43 UTC  

i agree snake but clearly its a tractable problem if analogous countries have a 20% difference

2019-01-12 19:45:58 UTC  

also americas marriage rates are very high actually

2019-01-12 19:46:16 UTC  

which might be a contributing factor

2019-01-12 19:46:26 UTC  

The problem is that anyone can defend this twisted system. Anyone of moral character ought to demand that reform occur

2019-01-12 19:46:47 UTC  

It is indefensible what is accepted as good

2019-01-12 19:46:59 UTC  

@Gerçek Well that was your concern with when asked to define decay.

2019-01-12 19:47:46 UTC  

and i think that process is in the works. remember though a policy doesnt need to be good for it to be good policy, just less bad then the alternatives

2019-01-12 19:48:13 UTC  

currently we are developing improvements, but i stress, developing

2019-01-12 19:48:19 UTC  

they dont exist as of yet

2019-01-12 19:48:27 UTC  

Think about the long term ramifications of this: each generation the most intelligent men will marry less and have less children to avoid financial ruin. Therefore, a greater percentage of children will be born to unintelligent fathers and single mothers

2019-01-12 19:48:47 UTC  

What we're effectively doing is removing fathers from the family

2019-01-12 19:49:42 UTC  

This isn't rocket science: ban all forms of alimony and child support. In the event of a divorce if you gain custody, you pay for the kid's expenses by yourself.

2019-01-12 19:49:52 UTC  

slippery slope fallacy mang, i think we accept that there is impetus for change, its unreasonable to expect that the rates of divorce would continue when again theres other nations where its much lower

2019-01-12 19:50:02 UTC  

If you can't afford to pay, you shouldn't get custody

2019-01-12 19:50:11 UTC  

@Krille P. I'm saying allowing gays to adopt given their abysmal marriage rates and divorce rates on average, given that they live Promiscuous lifestyles.. how does it appear to you as a solution to have kids be raised by such people?

2019-01-12 19:50:30 UTC  

The rate of divorce may decrease, but only because people will marry less

2019-01-12 19:50:41 UTC  

also i dont think alimony and child support in and of itself is an issue but i agree, custody and visitation reform should be tackled

2019-01-12 19:51:26 UTC  

How do you not think its an issue that you can be divorced at any time for any reason and because you're a man you will be forced to pay your ex wife by the state for the rest of your life?

2019-01-12 19:51:43 UTC  

Have you truly accepted this ridiculous situation as normal?

2019-01-12 19:51:46 UTC  

Well, the Greek faggots obviously managed since it is viewed as an example of high culture.

2019-01-12 19:53:10 UTC  

And no political party even cares enough to address this of course, they're all too busy focusing on censoring "hate speech"

2019-01-12 19:53:18 UTC  

snake, chill, i said reform should happen

2019-01-12 19:53:22 UTC  

im clearly not accepting it

2019-01-12 19:53:27 UTC  

But it won't, that's the point

2019-01-12 19:53:50 UTC  

@Krille P. I'm no defender of Heathen Culture but as I said, some of the men might have engaged in Degenerate behaviors outside the house, but they settled down and built families, had kids and raised them with their Wives.

2019-01-12 19:54:03 UTC  

also your wrong that no political party is talking about it, certainly its not a headline issue but its a present one

2019-01-12 19:54:04 UTC  

There is no mechanism to achieving it and currently the majority think this is normal and good

2019-01-12 19:54:21 UTC  

What party is seeking to reform divorce?

2019-01-12 19:54:23 UTC  

especially as a higher female workforce is a thing

2019-01-12 19:55:10 UTC  

theres discussion from both the democrats and republicans thats addressed it, no big moves as of yet but baby steps

2019-01-12 19:55:34 UTC  

a big stumbling block is the public image of mras which, yknow, thats fair

2019-01-12 19:55:36 UTC  

Could you give me an example?

2019-01-12 19:55:38 UTC  

A link?