I was even thinking about making it double barreled with 2 double stacked magazines you can hold in your hand

If you wanna get into long range you buy a 22 and shoot at reduced targets

Or a 17 hmr

It's a better simulator

lol it's a deal goyim

@Farseer the heroes are those etc etc

A CZ 17 hmr is a amazing learner gun

That's why you must use smaller calibers... 👌🏻

That's a start but it's not a big caliber rifle cartridge. And obviously it's a starting point.

It carried over

I think 5.56 is perfect. Easy to use for everyone so it's a good learner, and it's still practical as fuck

It's better to have quality small gun shooting simulated distances than a crappy gun shooting fat

*far

You would choose a .300 winmag when the terrain requires a longer max effective range than the .308 can provide @Convo @BershaeS

mmm

I've seen guys shoot over 100 rounds and never hit shit because of these cheap guns

I didnt know .308 was that much heavier than a .300

Or scopes or mounts etc

Yea .300 winmag is a mountain round

^^

that's the reason for the Army switching to a WinMag platform for snipers

300 wish is GOAT

Winmag

@SledgeHammer this particular gun seemed to buck the cheap gun trends

And for $300, I'm curious how good it is

I mean the Howa 1500 did

It's not $300

Yea there's a few out there that do

But people where ultra skeptical

@Convo heavier in what sense?

You're not wrong to be skeptical, but that gun Wyatt linked does seem like a good 400yd+ entry platform

beeger boolet

no

To learn what you actually want to drop money on

lol

wot

They shoot literally the same projectiles @Convo

@Farseer are you in Detroit

I still think the best is to learn on 17 or 22