Message from @RoflTank

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2019-01-12 17:37:35 UTC  

Exactly. It's a great FPS/TPS set in the Fallout universe, but without the heavy RPG elements it's just not a true Fallout title.

2019-01-12 17:38:02 UTC  

Funnily enough one of the first and greatest mods for FO4 was bringing back the old dialogue system

2019-01-12 17:38:18 UTC  

Now if only they could make SPECIAL and Skill checks matter again

2019-01-12 17:38:37 UTC  

I miss being able to flex on small brain niggas with my 10 Intelligence characters.

2019-01-12 17:39:30 UTC  

tfw 850 SP by level 50

2019-01-12 17:43:30 UTC  

Honestly, when they made fallout 3, they shouldve just dropped the rpg pretense with the change in medium

2019-01-12 17:44:06 UTC  

Fallout 4at least was an alrighr shooter, but it still is an fpsrpg where things either die instantly or domt fucking die

2019-01-12 17:45:48 UTC  

At the same time, TBRPGs are kind of boring.

2019-01-12 17:46:40 UTC  

I mean... an Initiative based "turn" order or time unit system isn't nearly as bad as a classic TBRPG, but it gets old and gimmicky.

2019-01-12 17:47:37 UTC  

Fpsrpg needs to just die as a genre. They always end up relying on sponges

2019-01-12 17:48:01 UTC  

That's an idiotic statement.

2019-01-12 17:48:09 UTC  

Every game relies on sponges.

2019-01-12 17:48:10 UTC  

I wouldn't say that FO4 was a great shooter, it relies on the trope of just giving more dangerous enemies more HP without changing how they fight or think

2019-01-12 17:48:27 UTC  

Oh I absolutely agree the AI needs a revamp

2019-01-12 17:48:36 UTC  

That's what mods are for

2019-01-12 17:48:43 UTC  

I was able to kill almost any enemy with an SNG with the bleed effect

2019-01-12 17:48:49 UTC  

I would say it was a mediocre shooter at best

2019-01-12 17:48:53 UTC  

Every game has some sort of sponginess, but fpsrpg has to rely on that dialed up to eleven

2019-01-12 17:48:59 UTC  

Not really

2019-01-12 17:49:20 UTC  

Good FPSRPG rely on new and interesting enemies with varied abilities and reactions

2019-01-12 17:49:44 UTC  

Which is, honestly, just good games in general

2019-01-12 17:50:03 UTC  

Good thing nobody actually knows how to make enemies interesting any more

2019-01-12 17:50:08 UTC  

Oof

2019-01-12 17:50:36 UTC  

Although i suppose titanfall 2 had some interesting enemy variations, limited as they were

2019-01-12 17:50:39 UTC  

The sad part is it's not hard to make dangerously competent AI

2019-01-12 17:50:57 UTC  

In fact the difficulty is making the AI retarded enough for players to compete

2019-01-12 17:51:23 UTC  

And nobody wants an ai that provides challenge these days

2019-01-12 17:52:38 UTC  

It's sad but true.

2019-01-12 17:53:23 UTC  

I mean no matter how competent the AI, Raiders or Gunners aren't gonna be much of a threat if you mulch them with a minigun as you stomp around in T-45+

2019-01-12 17:53:45 UTC  

But I wish there were more sniper and stealth enemies

2019-01-12 17:54:03 UTC  

>Not using the Space marine armor mod
Absolutly heretical

2019-01-12 17:54:05 UTC  

Like you're walking around and some Gunner Sniper sees you and fucking brains you

2019-01-12 17:54:24 UTC  

So you start a fight at like 10% hp because lmao you didn't see it coming

2019-01-12 17:54:56 UTC  

Ammo variants used by specific enemies would have been nice too, with a smart AI selection system

2019-01-12 17:55:08 UTC  

Good thing is

2019-01-12 17:55:11 UTC  

Games aren't good anymore

2019-01-12 17:55:20 UTC  

Not setting your HP to 1/1 once you exit the vault, fucking casual

2019-01-12 17:55:23 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/483396444380856333/533705568599277588/44928215_318159455632180_1040277071319969632_n.mp4

2019-01-12 17:55:27 UTC  

So for instance, a Grenadier with a pulse grenade would pop it at your PA and force you out of it, then chuck incendiaries

2019-01-12 17:55:37 UTC  

Fuck

2019-01-12 17:55:41 UTC  

I forgot I was on speaker