They just marry a tradesman to pay it off and because he's a tradesman, they dont respect him

@Kaiser Dion Napoleon aint that some shit

A society that no longer respects hard work is just running out the clock on their existence

The answer to solve literally any problem a woman could face is spread her legs

They make solid money and are looked down on

Until she hits the wall

its a mindfuck

@Whats gay anymore work hard have specialized skills, good at problem solving, peice of shit for not having an overpriced scrap of paper

youre taught its the worst thing that could come of your life

its a terrible message for boys

Wait, what?

schools using trades as cautionary tales

for the stupid, not something to be proud of or aspire towards

Oh, yeah. That's fucked up.

Well I mean let's be real here.......not every guy can be a CEO lol. Somebody gotta build shit

@Xychotic we were talking about how we are trained by society to look down on trades

God forbid you decide you want to do something vital to your society, right?

yeah its a backwards shitshow

the only problem with trades is the lack of benefits compared to white collar jobs and they depend on you always working or no luck

though it's a lot less toxic lol

Fuck all those guys who keep the lights on and our sewer system from backing up, they are scum

That I don't have real trade skills and never served in the military are two things that bug me about myself. I can fix the former, but I don't think I'll ever manage to fix the latter.

i actually thought that without even thinking

until i left school and realized wtf am i on

@bethekiwi if your doing a trade that high demand their will be benefits, the employers would probs be throwing prostitutes in if it was legal lol

well yeah though I'm just saying in general

@Whats gay anymore same, when I used to work corporate jobs I would leave my desk at the end of the day with no visible proof I did anything and feel like a waste of life

Yeh true, that’s the same with any job that isn’t in demand

@Reaper That's why I hated security work.

i regret not having trade skills, i can deal with missing the army

@VenomousHawk86i will work for you right now if you throw in a hooked a week

the structure and obedience is not for me

Lol I can’t afford that

@Whats gay anymore I wanted to serve in the air force or marines.

@Xychotic I did a bit of that too, very true sane feeling

i always wanted to because i like the idea and then remember that id be taking orders constantly and it fades

@Xychotic fuck did I ever want to be military too, funny they have stripped almost all prestige from that too

the idea of the brotherhood really appealed to me

comradery and the like

@Whats gay anymore I found no brotherhood in the military

@Whats gay anymore I found that only when I became mgtow