Message from @Wojak

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2019-03-02 14:00:56 UTC  

Second, I have a hard time finding papers about a subject and the studies I have read are mostly given to me from other videos.
How do you 'discover' papers on a subject beyond some google-fu on google scholar?

2019-03-02 14:01:46 UTC  

I studied adolescent development for school and only recently started returning to the subject; rather worried about the comparative absence of studies since the 2000s.

2019-03-02 14:02:25 UTC  

That's iffy. I've always read more than anyone else I've ever known. From fiction, to history, and so forth. I don't know how to "cultivate" it without a natural sense of obsession for learning. I read because I have to. Or I won't figure out how to know what's true or false. More information means more to work with. Means less mistakes. It means the best possible chance of seeing as much of the world as possible - and definitely do not discount fiction for this. Far better philosophy is written in fiction than in university.

2019-03-02 14:03:11 UTC  

Adolescent development isn't "kool" since they found out none of their studies on interventions validated. Buuut they still do on young children. Tabula Rasa springs eternal.

2019-03-02 14:03:31 UTC  

Hence why all those intervention studies try reaaaaaaaaaal hard to never longitudinally check beyond childhood.

2019-03-02 14:03:37 UTC  

And anyone who does realizes interventions do nothing.

2019-03-02 14:04:08 UTC  

Also, it's my general sense that people _hate_ teenagers.

2019-03-02 14:04:13 UTC  

Yeah I... learned that the hard way during 'rehab center' internships and a couple youth ministry groups that served as forced counseling for local juvies.

2019-03-02 14:04:35 UTC  

Any wonder teenagers hate the world. Everyone hates them by default.

2019-03-02 14:04:37 UTC  

Told outright we weren't there to "fix" anyone, only to manage them.

2019-03-02 14:04:45 UTC  

It's pretty despicable how we treat adolescents.

2019-03-02 14:05:00 UTC  

Yeah, makes good sense why they've got a chip on their shoulders about it.

2019-03-02 14:05:21 UTC  

Anyone would, treated with such neglect or, even worse, dismissal.

2019-03-02 14:05:35 UTC  

"Oh, you're learning how to figure out the world? Fuck off until you do"

2019-03-02 14:05:39 UTC  

_So helpful_

2019-03-02 14:06:06 UTC  

I can at least say, up until 2012, neglect is the modus operandi for how to deal with "criminals" and "recidivists" under 18.

2019-03-02 14:06:16 UTC  

Well, that and the rape.

2019-03-02 14:06:20 UTC  

Lots of that going on.

2019-03-02 14:06:29 UTC  

But as long as men are the ones being raped, who cares?

2019-03-02 14:06:50 UTC  

Yeah, that's strictly off-limits and a catch-22 for the clinic.

2019-03-02 14:06:50 UTC  

Highest rape stats in the nation aren't prison. It's Juvie.

2019-03-02 14:06:56 UTC  

Yep.

2019-03-02 14:07:14 UTC  

That's the sick thing: Prisoners have recourse to the law.

2019-03-02 14:07:20 UTC  

The law rolls its eyes at teenagers.

2019-03-02 14:07:35 UTC  

And if the clinics don't address it, it festers. If they do, the clinic will be pulled from the roster of places for kids to go when they're booted back out.

2019-03-02 14:08:17 UTC  

The law would have to look at teenagers to roll its eyes at them, might be more accurate.

2019-03-02 14:08:34 UTC  

I suspect more than several mysterious shank implements have been introduced to rape victims by someone's under-the-table idea of "fixing" the problem without reporting it.

2019-03-02 14:08:48 UTC  

Knew more than a few kids with known histories of parental abuse, immediately returned home on house arrest.

2019-03-02 14:08:52 UTC  

Fixes two problems, right? Who cares if the criminal gets more time, right?

2019-03-02 14:09:07 UTC  

I know how this shit works. And there's a reason I have zero respect for the law.

2019-03-02 14:09:43 UTC  

Yep; patch the pipe. No one cares if the water's clean, stop the leak and move on.

2019-03-02 14:10:06 UTC  

You also see a lot of victims of Munchausen's by proxy.

2019-03-02 14:10:13 UTC  

"He's crazy. No really."

2019-03-02 14:10:30 UTC  

And how does a _not_ crazy teenager prove his _mother_ is the insane one? He doesn't.

2019-03-02 14:10:33 UTC  

He's never given the chance.

2019-03-02 14:11:00 UTC  

If he tries, well, he's a narcissist who thinks he's superior to his poor innocent mother.

2019-03-02 14:11:08 UTC  

Lots of very bad "psychiatrists" on government pay.

2019-03-02 14:11:23 UTC  

That was both common and explicitly unaddressed. And at the time I would have had something approaching a "professional" capacity to deal with it, I was a psych student who had no clue what to practically look for.

2019-03-02 14:11:41 UTC  

I do. And I want to burn the industry to the ground.

2019-03-02 14:11:53 UTC  

You're actually still in?

2019-03-02 14:12:09 UTC  

HELL no. I saw the product, I talked to them, I _listened_ and investigated.