Rather than excell in this world, the idea is to prepare for the afterlife. So, you can easily cop out of reality. And Christians do. Why try to make the world better when all you need to do is be faithful to Jesus and you'll be saved for eternity?

I'm not trying to convert anyone. Just don't be fags about paganism

Answer the question

Fag

>pagan calling someone else a fag

penis

I said just don't be fags about paganism. Not calling you a fag

And I said answer the question.

Why don't you just make your point?

the implication that we were being fags about this. i.e. you're calling us fags. I don't mind it, but have the nuts to own up to it

This life Is a crucial step for the hereafter, the great goal. It is like saying high school doesn't matter for getting into college. That is my point.

That's not what I meant but I can see that. I mean don't trash paganism. It's the native culture of Europe and I like it a lot more than the stuff imported from the middle east

I rather chose the true tradition.

How is something imported from the middle east the true tradition of europeans?

Truth is universal, 2+2=4, even TRUE TM euros knew this (Plato, Socrates, etc.) The pagans are if anything more in common with the modern world that anything.

I used to think the Christian afterlife was a good thing because it would make people want to live a certain way, but I'm realizing the implication is really that objective reality doesn't matter as much as personal salvation.

What? Pagans think 2 plus 2 is something other than 4?

We literally believe in objective truth and morality, that you are so drench in the Globohomo is not my problem.

I wasn't saying you don't believe in objective reality. I'm saying you believe salvation is more important.

You would rather have everyone have their own "truth" because that Is the TRUE euro tradition.

Salvation is a goal. There are other goals as well.

Sure, but it's a lot easier to "be saved" than to actually accomplish something.

You have no idea how hard it is to have standards for yourself, for others, "to be saved", do you?

Uh, you just have to think a certain way really. Is it not faith in Jesus as your savior that ultimately makes one saved or not?

No

You have to take action as well.

You're certainly encouraged to. But it's not like there's a score card telling you how you are doing. What's the objective measure? It boils down to someone deluding themselves into believing they are saved.

That's pretty nihilistic.

Heathen morality is based in reality in that actions have consequences and your honor is determined by your actions

You don't know that's why you should not take chances.

Ah, better worship the foreign cult cuz I might be wrong

Amazing you just define the most water down definition of morality

"Might" lol

And we actually you know have had magisterums to solve what is and not dogma, good or evil, in a very defined way. More than yours.

Is actually funny, this thing with Nietzsche, he basicaly tried to own all Christians but owned the Protestants only.

He critiques Christianity broadly

A shame he failed for all but the retarded brother.

Was it you that knocked tribalism?

Well religion is better for tribalism than race.

Because "we're all God's children" isn't very conducive to nation sovereignty

Your race is your tribe though. You don't have anything in common with the baptized Kenyan except for baptism