They want the right for a woman who makes the choice to terminate her pregnancy to not be judged for it, which is utter nonsense.

They also do not seem to realise that if you go after liberties that other people care about, that they don't much care about, those other people will go after theirs in turn, sometimes purely out of spite.

The abortion debate is a good example of this.

I'm sorry, I don't want to waste your time. I see you still typing. I moved to another channel. It was great talking to you. I'm very tired and these topics are tiring so I'm just shitposting now.

Luckily, cooler heads prevailed in the long term. Only once has a constitutional ammendment curtailed freedom, and it was repealed. It seems that enough people are aware of how foolish the game of going after other people's liberties is.

Ok.

So let me ask you something then

You are essentially advocating for the right for women to be in control of their property, right?

In control of their body.

I do not believe that children are property.

But organs?

Your organs are part of your body.

Mhm

Sperm, on the other hand, are a component of a fluid produced by a few different organs.

But sperm is by itself not life

They are not themselves organs, like how bile isn't actually the pancreas or gall bladder.

So what’s your limits on abortion then?

Until the fetus is able to survive outside of the womb?

Or right up until birth?

Once it can survive, what is the point of aborting?

You just get it out early and surrender it.

Though I don't know if anywhere in the world grants the right of surrender to men.

What if early delivery does more damage to the woman’s body?

(Despite it being granted to women.)

Then the choice falls to them.

So what point do you support abortion until is what I’m trying to figure out

What point should it be allowed until

After the baby is out.

Because then that's just killing for no reason at all.

so 9 months abortion is fine

Is it fine legally in the US?

No

But it differs from state to state

Also just because it’s a law doesn’t make it morally right or wrong

What I think should be legal and what I think is wrong are different.

Getting an abortion at 9 month is just... why?

third semester abortions are possible

Also over 99% of abortion s are ‘convenience’ abortions meaning that, following your logic, there would be a point to just kill the baby after birth if the woman doesn’t want it

I know someone who's hippie sister loves coke and sex, but an implanon is just TOOOO CHEMICUL.

After all there’s a reason to kill it

So rather than having CHEMICULS IN MUH BODY, she has regular abortions.