Message from @meijinsan

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2017-12-19 05:20:08 UTC  

Getting an abortion at 9 month is just... why?

2017-12-19 05:20:31 UTC  

third semester abortions are possible

2017-12-19 05:20:40 UTC  

Also over 99% of abortion s are ‘convenience’ abortions meaning that, following your logic, there would be a point to just kill the baby after birth if the woman doesn’t want it

2017-12-19 05:20:50 UTC  

I know someone who's hippie sister loves coke and sex, but an implanon is just TOOOO CHEMICUL.

2017-12-19 05:20:55 UTC  

After all there’s a reason to kill it

2017-12-19 05:21:21 UTC  

So rather than having CHEMICULS IN MUH BODY, she has regular abortions.

2017-12-19 05:21:30 UTC  

dont see how mothers should be able to kill their unborn baby because they just dont feel like having a kid

2017-12-19 05:21:43 UTC  

But do you see abortion as a killing/murder?

2017-12-19 05:21:57 UTC  

It is killing.

2017-12-19 05:22:05 UTC  

Then that makes it wrong

2017-12-19 05:22:07 UTC  

Morally

2017-12-19 05:22:09 UTC  

I have no idea at what point it becomes killing.

2017-12-19 05:22:26 UTC  

That’s the issue up in the air

2017-12-19 05:22:31 UTC  

But at some point it must be.

2017-12-19 05:22:33 UTC  

Is it made of human matter that is still in the process of being alive?

2017-12-19 05:22:38 UTC  

after fertilization

2017-12-19 05:22:41 UTC  

if so then yes it is killing

2017-12-19 05:22:42 UTC  

Killing is not always wrong.

2017-12-19 05:22:57 UTC  

Correct. We must look at individual cases

2017-12-19 05:23:04 UTC  

But we can also make generalizations

2017-12-19 05:23:16 UTC  

I must not walk down the street and stab the first person I see

2017-12-19 05:23:17 UTC  

its wrong to kill innocents

2017-12-19 05:23:24 UTC  

baby is innocent

2017-12-19 05:23:37 UTC  

If it's a matter of convenience just because they didn't take sex seriously then Abortion is abhorrent

2017-12-19 05:24:00 UTC  

I know of at least one person who was actually like that.

2017-12-19 05:24:14 UTC  

Most people are like that

2017-12-19 05:24:19 UTC  

If you look at the statistics

2017-12-19 05:25:00 UTC  

Honestly I had no position on abortion until I saw some of the insane statistics

2017-12-19 05:25:20 UTC  

No, most people do not have regular abortions because they want sex but think "chemiculs in muh body" is bad, but abortions are just fine.

2017-12-19 05:25:33 UTC  

Pretty much

2017-12-19 05:25:44 UTC  

That is not at all most people.

2017-12-19 05:25:47 UTC  

Culturally in America we are not taught that the fetus is a life

2017-12-19 05:27:18 UTC  

This said, bad reasons do not erase your rights.

2017-12-19 05:28:20 UTC  

This is the inevitable problem with giving people rights.

2017-12-19 05:28:27 UTC  

Correct, but we must also recognize where our rights come from

2017-12-19 05:28:37 UTC  

People are not given rights

2017-12-19 05:29:11 UTC  

Rights given are easily taken away. You must be willing to defend your rights by pen or by sword.

2017-12-19 05:29:55 UTC  

(Figure of speech. You should use rifles.)

2017-12-19 05:29:57 UTC  

No, everyone has rights granted to them solely by existing. The purpose of government is to take away rights that infringe on others

2017-12-19 05:31:12 UTC  

The constitution sees the rights as codiefied in it, not granted by it.

2017-12-19 05:31:23 UTC  

Exactly