Message from @meijinsan
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Honestly I had no position on abortion until I saw some of the insane statistics
No, most people do not have regular abortions because they want sex but think "chemiculs in muh body" is bad, but abortions are just fine.
Pretty much
That is not at all most people.
Culturally in America we are not taught that the fetus is a life
This said, bad reasons do not erase your rights.
This is the inevitable problem with giving people rights.
Correct, but we must also recognize where our rights come from
People are not given rights
Rights given are easily taken away. You must be willing to defend your rights by pen or by sword.
(Figure of speech. You should use rifles.)
No, everyone has rights granted to them solely by existing. The purpose of government is to take away rights that infringe on others
The constitution sees the rights as codiefied in it, not granted by it.
Exactly
That’s why the second amendment is there
You have the right to protect your own rights, and not rely on the government
But the constitution is a piece of paper. The paper needs some steel, propellant and plastic to back it up.
Yes.
The constitution is a set of beliefs and ideas
Well, aluminium too I suppose.
Anyways back to my original point
The constitution is the foundation of law and order
You acknowledge that the government is in place to protect the rights of the innocent, correct?
The government is in place to enforce laws, and defend the country from invasion.
Should the government protect those who cannot protect themselves?
We acknowledge that abortion is killing, after all
I don't know. Who are they protecting? What are they protecting them from?
The fetus from early termination, without being threatening to the mothers life
If it's protecting it from the right to control your own body, sorry.
So the rights of property supercedes the rights to life?
It's the right to control your body, who uses your organs.
tfw it's not just ones own body anymore
I don't believe that people's organs should be used against their will.
Yes it is, it is separated by a placenta.
It is a body supporting another, growing body.
So you think it’s fine if a woman knowingly gets pregnant and plans an abortion from day 1?
I don't think that people should have unprotected sex if they aren't willing to bear the responsibility to have the child
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And I don't believe the government should be in our bedrooms or inside people.
I would agree