Marriage would be a nice solution.

The point is that people don’t take the steps to avoid pregnancy because abortion is so easily accessable

I support rights in general, not only if I like their reasons for using the rights.

You said though that the fetus doesn’t take away any rights whatsoever

In the same way the human immunovirus is not a person.

You support rights in general except when they are an inconvenience?

Neither chose to enter you.

That’s such a false equivalency

aye, but you chose to let it enter (except for rape and birth control failure)

No, I just don't believe anyone has the right to others' organs.

We choose when to make babies, we don’t choose when to get sick

>Comparing a white cell that will never turn to a human to a baby who will.

It’s more than organs, your prioritising organs over a life

Exactly

I prioritise freedom over life.

I'd give up the use of my arm for 2 hours if it'd stop someone falling off a cliff

You prioritize certain freedoms

You ignore one parties freedoms for another

Fuck I actually think that's mandatory over here due to the good samaritan laws in australia

Lives are valuable, but I don't value them to the extent that anyone has the right to the use of anyone else's organs without their consent.

You value the freedom of property over the absolute freedom of a life

I prioritise freedom of choice than freedom of responsability.

Property? No, freedom over your own body.

Which is your property

What about the fetus's freedom to use it's own body?

It's body is its property

And it can't survive without the woman.

You guys have any solutions to the problem of single mothers? I do let's first hear it!

but it is a human, thus it has rights to its own body

It’s ok to say you accept abortions is cases of rape or medical emergencies but I think it’s morally abhorred to say you support abortions for convenience

We simply disagree, you guys believe that you can have the right to the use of someone's organs without their consent, and I do not.

No, you idiots, solutions.

Ok. Theoretical time

@ebowden let’s say you have sex and you get pregnant

You believe that proposition, and I do not, there is nothing to discuss.

Did you know that there was a chance for you to get pregnant?

This logic can be applied to infecting people with STDs just as well.

No it cant

It can also be applied to a trip to a casino

Yes it can.

No it literally cant