Message from @Valet the Clown
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Again, no.
Dude adoption is so overwhelmingly popular here
So, no children are in foster care?
Seems odd that the system would have to exist if adopting out a kid to someone good was just so simple.
Birth control prevents pregnancy, except for when it doesn't.
You do everything right and still get pregnant.
You can follow all road rules and still get run over.
if it didn't prevent it then chances are it's damaged the fetus beyond the point of it being ok to let it live
If you take all steps to prevent pregnancy and still get pregnant I’ll support abortion
Marriage would be a nice solution.
The point is that people don’t take the steps to avoid pregnancy because abortion is so easily accessable
I support rights in general, not only if I like their reasons for using the rights.
You said though that the fetus doesn’t take away any rights whatsoever
In the same way the human immunovirus is not a person.
You support rights in general except when they are an inconvenience?
Neither chose to enter you.
That’s such a false equivalency
aye, but you chose to let it enter (except for rape and birth control failure)
No, I just don't believe anyone has the right to others' organs.
We choose when to make babies, we don’t choose when to get sick
It’s more than organs, your prioritising organs over a life
Exactly
I prioritise freedom over life.
I'd give up the use of my arm for 2 hours if it'd stop someone falling off a cliff
You prioritize certain freedoms
You ignore one parties freedoms for another
Fuck I actually think that's mandatory over here due to the good samaritan laws in australia
Lives are valuable, but I don't value them to the extent that anyone has the right to the use of anyone else's organs without their consent.
You value the freedom of property over the absolute freedom of a life
I prioritise freedom of choice than freedom of responsability.
Property? No, freedom over your own body.
Which is your property
What about the fetus's freedom to use it's own body?
It's body is its property
And it can't survive without the woman.
You guys have any solutions to the problem of single mothers? I do let's first hear it!
but it is a human, thus it has rights to its own body
It’s ok to say you accept abortions is cases of rape or medical emergencies but I think it’s morally abhorred to say you support abortions for convenience
We simply disagree, you guys believe that you can have the right to the use of someone's organs without their consent, and I do not.
No, you idiots, solutions.