Message from @Valet the Clown

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2018-01-27 03:27:48 UTC  

depending on your definition of what a "normal" monarchy is

2018-01-27 03:46:45 UTC  

The best goverment ever.

2018-01-27 03:59:18 UTC  

>Die of plauge
>Executed for 'witchcraft'
>Taxed to living in mud huts

2018-01-27 04:01:11 UTC  

>Not knowing we are taxed more today.

2018-01-27 04:02:21 UTC  

>Die bc an atom bomb.

2018-01-27 04:04:47 UTC  

>Die in the name of "Freedom"

2018-01-27 04:05:01 UTC  

>NSA watching you fap

2018-01-27 04:05:20 UTC  

>Child drag queens

2018-01-27 04:05:44 UTC  

>Wars are becoming more barbaric

2018-01-27 04:06:56 UTC  

because Atom bombs would be so much better in the hands of a monarch, I'm sure.

2018-01-27 04:07:13 UTC  

imagine Wilhelm II with an A-bomb

2018-01-27 04:07:25 UTC  

Bc a monarch looking to get more land would destroy that same land

2018-01-27 04:07:43 UTC  

Not really interested in a debate about it atm, but I am interested in by what measure we are considered taxed more.

2018-01-27 04:08:07 UTC  

Willy sure tried his hardest to destroy a good part of French land he wanted to take

2018-01-27 04:08:21 UTC  

Also, if before anyone tries bringing up prima noctis. That was a bigger myth than smallpox blankets.

2018-01-27 04:09:12 UTC  

and he could have easily nuked London. capital of a nation he did not care for and who's supremacy on the waves threatened his dreams of Weltpolitik

2018-01-27 04:11:30 UTC  

Is it a philosophical war in his mind or an actual territorial war?

2018-01-27 04:12:47 UTC  

a war for the very existence of the Kaiserreich. to Wilhelm, Britain was almost as evil as France

2018-01-27 04:13:05 UTC  

Mate there is your answer.

2018-01-27 04:13:48 UTC  

and he had no interest in occupying the British Isles as far as I know. if he had the ability to crush them and remove them from the war, I do not believe he would have hesitated

2018-01-27 04:13:59 UTC  

When the US got in WWI it became a war of ideology Republic vs Monarchy, when it started as a territorial war.

2018-01-27 04:14:37 UTC  

of course the French and British were quick to reframe the public image along similar lines

2018-01-27 04:15:48 UTC  

I will not say there have never been bad kings such as King Louis X but they are far better than Wodrow Wilson for example.

2018-01-27 04:18:01 UTC  

we can trade good examples and bad as much as we want. one of the problems with American politics is that we've given the chief executive to much power. We've made his office more like that of a king's as time has gone on. the difference between a bad president and a bad king is that there are more people to get in the way of a bad president's decision.

2018-01-27 04:23:30 UTC  

I disagree, given than a King had to beg money for his wars while a president doesn't; a King can be controlled if they are unruly, mad, or bloodthirsty more often than a president than names his delusions as "The will of the people"; Kings are able too do much more good given that it is in his benefit to increase the current wealth and future wealth of his state; A president only thinks of the now.

2018-01-27 04:25:30 UTC  

keep in mind that it was not the republics that declared war first in WWI

2018-01-27 04:25:38 UTC  

Of course

2018-01-27 04:25:44 UTC  

it took the US until 1917 to join

2018-01-27 04:26:32 UTC  

But it ceartainly took a bitter turn when it got in, especially when it came to Germany.

2018-01-27 04:34:18 UTC  

of course it did. all that fresh material bolstering Germany's enemies. some 2 million fresh troops sent to the Western front. it's no wonder the civilian government and the military (the Kaiser himself having fled to neutral Holland) agreed to the armistice.

2018-01-27 04:36:28 UTC  

I was talking about the treaty of versailles.

2018-01-27 04:38:38 UTC  

oh, you mean WIlson's 14 points that the French pissed on?

2018-01-27 04:40:51 UTC  

You know what I'm trying to get, don't be coy.

2018-01-27 04:41:39 UTC  

what are you getting at?

2018-01-27 04:42:57 UTC  

What happened after WWI

2018-01-27 04:44:58 UTC  

Germany's economic collapse caused in large part by the reparations, a brief revolutionary period (not in that order), the dissarmament of germany, the eventual rise of the Nazis, what is your point?

2018-01-27 04:45:53 UTC  

Had Germany stayed as it was before WWI had that happened?

2018-01-27 04:46:30 UTC  

are you trying to suggest that they wouldn't be disarmed under the Kaiserreich?

2018-01-27 04:46:37 UTC  

Had Monarchy stayed in power had that happend?

2018-01-27 04:47:07 UTC  

yes. why wouldn't it have? at any rate, the Monarch himself decided to abdicate.

2018-01-27 04:47:38 UTC  

U sure?