Message from @Dinosorcerer

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2018-01-27 01:39:24 UTC  

And tbf I haven't finished that one yet.

2018-01-27 02:01:40 UTC  

if Democracy is the god that failed, what does that make feudalism?

2018-01-27 02:03:17 UTC  

A greek style god that is brutal, uncaring, willing to harm others for it's own pleasure. But it didn't promise anything else. "I'm a god. I'm in charge. Don't question me. Now bend over and take it."

2018-01-27 02:09:48 UTC  

@Valet the Clown it is important to note, however that Phillip relied more on his civil servants than nobles or orders of knights. he even went so far as to disband the Knights Templar. in many ways he eschewed the feudal system.

2018-01-27 02:10:40 UTC  

That was my first point my dude @Dinosorcerer

2018-01-27 02:12:05 UTC  

There were no serfs but it certainly was still a Monarchy.

2018-01-27 02:12:29 UTC  

but that's not necessarily feudalism then

2018-01-27 02:12:50 UTC  

It is a Monarchy.

2018-01-27 02:12:52 UTC  

you can't have feudalism without the system of feifdoms

2018-01-27 02:13:11 UTC  

they were advocating for feudalism not just monarchy

2018-01-27 02:13:24 UTC  

or at least they said feudalism

2018-01-27 02:14:26 UTC  

whether they actually know what that entails or they were just using it as synonymous with monarchy I can't say

2018-01-27 02:15:27 UTC  

I'll have to watch it.

2018-01-27 02:16:30 UTC  

I view Monarchy and Democracy as private property vs public property.

2018-01-27 02:16:36 UTC  

Aydin brings up a central monarch, but I don't think she talked about barons or other lords

2018-01-27 02:18:13 UTC  

so it could very well be that she's talking about just Monarchy. but even then that doesn't gel with the part in her vision where people exist in small communities of free people.

2018-01-27 02:18:24 UTC  

that's not how that works

2018-01-27 02:19:21 UTC  

There will ceartainly be people who'll be granted titles, but those can be taken away. And frankly the only thing in feudalism I don't like is the freedom of movement.

2018-01-27 02:23:11 UTC  

and with the way the US economy works, primarily with an abnormally mobile workforce, you just couldn't get that sort of system to work without collapsing our whole economic system and starting over from a primarily agriculture-based economy

2018-01-27 02:24:14 UTC  

>Implying if there were to be a new system the old one would stay as it is.

2018-01-27 02:25:24 UTC  

well I don't think they consciously realize the radical change that would have to happen by the way they were talking about it.

2018-01-27 02:27:43 UTC  

I think only the normies believe that it can be achieve without much trouble although it could be as they said "They are becoming further right wing"

2018-01-27 02:27:58 UTC  

They are still new to this.

2018-01-27 02:29:40 UTC  

Although @AydinPaladin I hope you stoped calling it Anarcho-monarchy. I swear to my finger.

2018-01-27 02:29:41 UTC  

The path from normie, to actual thinking human is a long one, frought with peril and dead ends.

2018-01-27 02:30:15 UTC  

Anarcho-Monarchy? fucking what?

2018-01-27 02:31:07 UTC  

also, I didn't even realize she was in this discord. some mod I am

2018-01-27 02:31:41 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/392485988024320001/406637359606661131/unnamed.png

2018-01-27 03:24:48 UTC  

"Anarcho-Monarchy" Lol so just a normal monarchy?

2018-01-27 03:27:48 UTC  

depending on your definition of what a "normal" monarchy is

2018-01-27 03:46:45 UTC  

The best goverment ever.

2018-01-27 03:59:18 UTC  

>Die of plauge
>Executed for 'witchcraft'
>Taxed to living in mud huts

2018-01-27 04:01:11 UTC  

>Not knowing we are taxed more today.

2018-01-27 04:02:21 UTC  

>Die bc an atom bomb.

2018-01-27 04:04:47 UTC  

>Die in the name of "Freedom"

2018-01-27 04:05:01 UTC  

>NSA watching you fap

2018-01-27 04:05:20 UTC  

>Child drag queens

2018-01-27 04:05:44 UTC  

>Wars are becoming more barbaric

2018-01-27 04:06:56 UTC  

because Atom bombs would be so much better in the hands of a monarch, I'm sure.

2018-01-27 04:07:13 UTC  

imagine Wilhelm II with an A-bomb

2018-01-27 04:07:25 UTC  

Bc a monarch looking to get more land would destroy that same land