@Campin' Carl i'd rather do that than pay a bunch of niggers to have kids

you know what you said before about internal and external trade policies was basically what australia started with

one could make an argument for roads, but you must understand it's going to have a tendency to become a black hole for money

one whole argument for federation was to create a strong external trade border but eliminating internal tariffs between states

infrastructure is important, I don't know anyone that does it well TBH

albert speer was good at that wasnt he?

At the end of the day, you've got to tax someone and it should only be tax to you if you use the facility or item.

I am 100% in favor of use fees

what are they then

roads are the biggest example of where pragmatism gets in the way of that

but most things could be more effectively funded through use fees rather than taxes

@Campin' Carl why did austraila move away from the free internal markets/protected trade engagements arrangement?

commies?

yeah

figures

we had em right up till the 90s

defense is one of the few areas of goverment expenditure that can be justified

regardless of who pays in, everyone inside a state's borders benefits from the spending, and it's not realistic to exclude those who don't pay in from benefitting

could you spell defence properly

no

rrreeee

you'll be alright

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Keating

this cunt got rid of our protectionist policies

a catholic @MsNatSocialist

figures

then y'all bought into the f-35

that was abbott i think

yea it was later

he started the downhill slide

should have bought f/a-18 super hornets TBH

we should buy an aircraft carrier or 2 first

or just make them

Free markets is a libertarian idea and it's impossible to recreate. At the end of the day someone has to pay someone to do something and I'd rather not have to deal with the logistical nightmare of community funding micro financial departments.
Especially if you live in cities or suburbs.
Also who pays for defense? Who pays for military? who pays for people to do these micro treasuries?
Who pays for these things?
GST?

so you're into wasting incomprehensibly large amounts of people's money

got it

did you not read what I just wrote? I said defense is one of the few justifiable government expenditures

because you can't exclude those who don't pay from the service

bureaucracy increases the cost of things too you know

No, I'm not... But who will do this stuff for free? Who will have the time?

NASA had a lot of trouble with that you know