Message from @Campin' Carl

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2017-06-10 07:15:46 UTC  

what say you yuge of the idea of lending newly married couples some money and cutting 1/4 of the debt every time they have a baby

2017-06-10 07:15:56 UTC  

It was a legal way of changing laws without actually changing any laws and it being perfectly legal and cut off the middle man. It was sly and completely underhanded.
I left that job because the internal politics got too dirty.

2017-06-10 07:16:13 UTC  

i mean, it's not ideal but it'd be a better system than the current social safety net

2017-06-10 07:16:23 UTC  

it'd be better not to tax and spend in the first place

2017-06-10 07:16:38 UTC  

the government devalues every dollar it takes in taxes

2017-06-10 07:17:00 UTC  

hmm

2017-06-10 07:17:03 UTC  

what say you of roads

2017-06-10 07:17:04 UTC  

@Campin' Carl i'd rather do that than pay a bunch of niggers to have kids

2017-06-10 07:17:47 UTC  

you know what you said before about internal and external trade policies was basically what australia started with

2017-06-10 07:17:49 UTC  

one could make an argument for roads, but you must understand it's going to have a tendency to become a black hole for money

2017-06-10 07:18:25 UTC  

one whole argument for federation was to create a strong external trade border but eliminating internal tariffs between states

2017-06-10 07:18:27 UTC  

infrastructure is important, I don't know anyone that does it well TBH

2017-06-10 07:18:50 UTC  

albert speer was good at that wasnt he?

2017-06-10 07:18:54 UTC  

At the end of the day, you've got to tax someone and it should only be tax to you if you use the facility or item.

2017-06-10 07:21:23 UTC  

I am 100% in favor of use fees

2017-06-10 07:21:49 UTC  

what are they then

2017-06-10 07:22:09 UTC  

roads are the biggest example of where pragmatism gets in the way of that

2017-06-10 07:22:22 UTC  

but most things could be more effectively funded through use fees rather than taxes

2017-06-10 07:23:00 UTC  

@Campin' Carl why did austraila move away from the free internal markets/protected trade engagements arrangement?

2017-06-10 07:23:04 UTC  

commies?

2017-06-10 07:23:42 UTC  

yeah

2017-06-10 07:23:46 UTC  

figures

2017-06-10 07:23:49 UTC  

we had em right up till the 90s

2017-06-10 07:24:03 UTC  

defense is one of the few areas of goverment expenditure that can be justified

2017-06-10 07:24:45 UTC  

regardless of who pays in, everyone inside a state's borders benefits from the spending, and it's not realistic to exclude those who don't pay in from benefitting

2017-06-10 07:24:56 UTC  

could you spell defence properly

2017-06-10 07:25:11 UTC  

no

2017-06-10 07:25:15 UTC  

rrreeee

2017-06-10 07:25:51 UTC  

you'll be alright

2017-06-10 07:26:30 UTC  

this cunt got rid of our protectionist policies

2017-06-10 07:26:36 UTC  

a catholic @MsNatSocialist

2017-06-10 07:26:46 UTC  

figures

2017-06-10 07:27:02 UTC  

then y'all bought into the f-35

2017-06-10 07:27:16 UTC  

that was abbott i think

2017-06-10 07:27:26 UTC  

yea it was later

2017-06-10 07:27:31 UTC  

he started the downhill slide

2017-06-10 07:27:53 UTC  

should have bought f/a-18 super hornets TBH

2017-06-10 07:28:10 UTC  

we should buy an aircraft carrier or 2 first

2017-06-10 07:28:12 UTC  

or just make them

2017-06-10 07:28:46 UTC  

Free markets is a libertarian idea and it's impossible to recreate. At the end of the day someone has to pay someone to do something and I'd rather not have to deal with the logistical nightmare of community funding micro financial departments.
Especially if you live in cities or suburbs.
Also who pays for defense? Who pays for military? who pays for people to do these micro treasuries?
Who pays for these things?
GST?