or F35 vs F/A-18

yea, you aussies should know a thing or two about clusterfucked bureaucratic messes, aka the f-35

*sigh*

get the government involved in money and you're going to have a really bad time

a la f-35

over budget, over schedule, can't hit half it's performance targets

or the M3 Bradley in its early stages

@Campin' Carl you're proving my point

i know

thank you

you could do this all day long

there simply are so many examples of the government fucking things up

for a nazi example

MP40 vs STG44

long story short, the gov will find a way to fuck anything up

When I worked for the civil courts. It was my job to help create stupid processes within the executive policies and procedures to ensure lengthy civil court processes from the back end.
It was creating a law for the law, but not saying it was a law per se`.

they had to hide the development of the STG44 under the guise of a submachine gun because hitler didnt want R&D going into rifles

hitler got a lot of things right, he was wildly off base with his anti-capitalism

@MsNatSocialist you have first hand experience with how bad this idea is, I don't understand how you can defend the socialism part of national socialism

as larpy as it sounds, national capitalism is the way forward

free markets inside our borders, protectionist policies when we engage with the outside world to protect our interests

what say you yuge of the idea of lending newly married couples some money and cutting 1/4 of the debt every time they have a baby

It was a legal way of changing laws without actually changing any laws and it being perfectly legal and cut off the middle man. It was sly and completely underhanded.
I left that job because the internal politics got too dirty.

i mean, it's not ideal but it'd be a better system than the current social safety net

it'd be better not to tax and spend in the first place

the government devalues every dollar it takes in taxes

hmm

what say you of roads

@Campin' Carl i'd rather do that than pay a bunch of niggers to have kids

you know what you said before about internal and external trade policies was basically what australia started with

one could make an argument for roads, but you must understand it's going to have a tendency to become a black hole for money

one whole argument for federation was to create a strong external trade border but eliminating internal tariffs between states

infrastructure is important, I don't know anyone that does it well TBH

albert speer was good at that wasnt he?

At the end of the day, you've got to tax someone and it should only be tax to you if you use the facility or item.

I am 100% in favor of use fees

what are they then

roads are the biggest example of where pragmatism gets in the way of that

but most things could be more effectively funded through use fees rather than taxes

@Campin' Carl why did austraila move away from the free internal markets/protected trade engagements arrangement?

commies?