yeah

can't you do a similar thing wtih a toolbox?

I am looking at a setup to keep a long gun locked

I am not doing external storage of a weapon

I am thinking under back seats for a SAIGA 12 with drum or AR15 with Aimpoint

reason? because it's not accessible from inside?

yup

do you have a crew cab?

yeah

full size Lariat F150 2015

i've seen some impressive subwoofer installs in crew cabs, I imagine you could rig up gun storage in the same space

either under or behidn the rear seat

yeah I may look into AR pistols

i was just going to mention that

or side folder para weapons

@here get in the call or you are a cuck

IIRC .300 blackout is the thing to get for SBR/pistol ARs

maybe SIG 556 Para model with stock folded and mags coupled

i know it's snowflake ammo

range of that type of weapon there is no issue with 556

it will in fact be even more screwy when it hits a body

i sperged out researchign this a while back

I think the short barrels prevent 556 from reaching decent velocity

It doesn't matter at that encounter range

which obviously negatively impacts the force it exerts because of the light round

i have a 300blk i like it

I think .300 blackout is suggested for anything under 11" barrel

It's not as stable it will in some cases have tumble that is helpful

anyway, look into it, there's a lot of info on it

Why the CAR15 XM model was so loved by SOG, MACV in nam

SBR/AR pistol is a pipe dream until I'm out of CA, so I stopped looking into it for the time being

Sudden close engagements it puts you on ass with yaw etc

300blk is more affordable than it used to be too. i guess that depends what you consider affordable. it's about the same as 308 nowadays

AR pistol with amount T1

Aimpoint

and there is a shitload of manufacturers for it

Meh another reason 556 is there are any downed first responders near me they are mostly going to have 556 mags on them

that HK MP7 they're arming the british spec ops hobos with looks noice

the Remington UMC seems to have sporadic accuracy with it though

Pull them into cover, pull their mags and give update on their radio and keep moving

that's a good point