No entitlements.

@metan How Old are you?

Ok... doesnt' matter about the woman, she is on contract right? So she is an object a biological artifical womb. Ok... then what?

30, why.

I wanna make good solutions here brk.

OK. So go to another country, surrogate, ditch the bitch.

You aren't fucking dating here... or fucking her. Its all done in a lab... right? That is what we are talking about here?

@Tommy WizOh no. Ino...

U didn't get me sorry.

Is surrogacy.... To. Get. The son.

Then you can date the woman.

U keep. The child.

Ok... hold on... does she think I am dating her? Or is she doing a job?

U never register with her... So. U never have law in between.

@Tommy WizOh OMG brk.. Sorry.

It's my fault for. Not being clear sorry.

Sounds like a contract.

No bro.

When you say Surrogacy I'm thinking it's a legally binding business contract.

No. Bro.... Please let. Me exain.... Lol.

Part 1 is make the son.

Then u get birth order to get your sons certificate.

Then part 2... U can date a woman or whatever.

Where she has to eat what she is told and do what she is told for 9 months. I don't stick my dick in her.... we do the jerk off + turkey baster.

If Shes OK, u just continue dating her.

No bro... The son is yours.

U don't need to have sex with the gf.

Part 1 is where we're stuck. How do you get the kid *without* her parental rights? Are we talking about a machine womb?

Or whatever... U already had a son through the surrogacy right.

Ok... so how is this plan different than me just going to Ukrane, dating a bitch.... knocking her up and then taking off with the kid later?

Or artificial insemination?

@Terminarch it's through commercial surrogacy.

The fucking turkey baster.

In Ukraine, where 80% of surrogacy is done...

U become the sole legal parent.

On your sons certificate u only have the father.

That's brilliant because there can never ever be any claim. To. Support later.

The surrogate waives her right to. Any claim through the surrogacy provider.

Then u bring u son as step 1 of your family right.

What is this bacon here?

Then u just say story....