Are u talking aboit surrogacy?

That's all. Packaged in total price.

Yes you do. If you've ever lived together, supported the child together, or get *accused* of domestic abuse / violence you're fucked.

Ukraine government gets a cut. Trust me. They legislate for this shit, they get paid one way or another.

Just like lcd monitors got cheaper over time... This surrogacy gets. More established... It will become cheaper.... More options emerge to lower the price.

I know what you mean.,.. all in one price. But you cannot bring the price down to 5000

@Tommy WizOh ok but after the $20k that's it.

Excuse my ignorance, I've never understood the whole "Muh family line is precious" thing. Whether evolution or divine creation, we all come from the same original couple.

It's. Your son bro.

@Flushtater Respectfully disagree.

No alimony, no divorce, your son, your family, no headache, your family.

At times the human population has been reduced to fifty individuals. We're all related.

You keep custody.

@Flushtater That's better.

@Flushtater what u think bro?

Doesn't anyone see the utility of this solution?

The woman gets a big cut. She isn't going to wreck her body for nothing. The cheaper you pay the less quality you will get. You want extra healthy womb, you pay extra money. That's the free market. It has to be technological and replicatable on a large scale to be truly viable.

I just don't see what's so great about being a breeeder versus say an adopter.

Most. Mgtow talks abiut the problem and exposing it... Which is great....

But. I'm try to offer a really viable solution

An alternative to millions of. Guys who want a family but don't wanna get destroyed by marriage enslavement. Child support. Misery.

It won't be anymore than 12.5% your dna in a couple generations, it's meaningless.

@metan It's viable for very few MGTOW. How many guys do you know who can drop everything and go to another country?

@metan surrogacy is fine, but it's a drop in the endles sea of humans, I don't see how it would change anything.

@Tommy WizOh well with the in vitro baby bags coming out with the womb will be very healthy and cheaper too.

It's a good idea. Because it's available TODAY.... problem is small market, super expensive etc.

Guys, I'll work with partners to setup a really good. Lab for this.

We can totally wipe our and marginalize women.

Fight against gynkcentric society.

To justify the price you need to be doing genetic engineering.

Something about this screams denial.

And use our brains and engineering to destroy them.

"Bargaining," specifically.

Because after all we built this worpd for them. To. Enjoy with us.

We can easily use. Our wit to take. Back full control.

@Terminarch no bro... This. Is a zero compromise option only favoring men.

What's denial brk?

We can have our cake and eat it too.

Everyone of. Is guys can be happy and have our family.

I think it's a step in the right direction, but adoption is better. That way you are saving a young man that is suffering right now. That's better than making new people... fixing the ones we have now.

Bargaining is a reference to the 5 stages of grief. Like if you lost a loved one.