The kid costs more than $20k in time.

Bro... It's many Times. Cheaper than agony of life wrecking divorce, losing ur kids anyways, and losing half ur net worth.

Yeah but it's ur kids.

That is true.

U can have. Just 1 son.

And women won't have any claim

If you want a kid, that is probably the best way to go.

No child. Support.. It'd. Ur child.

No alimony, u never married her.

Fair enough. But not many want this.

She will always be on her best behavior. Because otherawise she knows she's exkensdabem.

@Tommy WizOh why not?

I want. To make this more affordable for men who want a family, but don't like the direction feminist is going to wreck their lives.

I'm all for you having this option and maybe it'd even work. But most MGTOW wouldn't take the risk.

I don't want to have a kid, if I were to raise a boy to be a good man going his own way, I would just find one that has already been discarded and make him whole.

Sort of like a viable alternative. To family engineering in the age of mgtow.

@Tommy WizOh but u can haeb truly your son.

It's really continuation of you. 100% natural.

Ur heritage and legacy.

I don't see it that way. The young man is his own person. I'm only there to guide him.

@Tommy WizOh but it's good. To have your son... I thiught mgtow we opt out because women are cheaters...

We lose child custody 99% of. Divorce.

We have. To pay alimony.

Heritage doesn't matter that much to me. If it did I would be taking over Transylvania right now ... taking back my home lands with force. DNA is meaningless to me personally.

Think aboit the 2M annual. Marriages.

See, you keep coming back to the woman. "On her best behavior" isn't good enough.

It could all be safer for 10Ms of. Guys.

@Terminarch why not? U can do easily throw her away any second u want.

It's. Ur house.

Ur child.

If you live in the fucking desert.

U have zero obligations to support her.

It's a dream freedom, isn't it?

You cannot make the process cheaper by much. There are too many parties involved. The governement wants a cut, the company wants a cut, the woman wants a cut. It must lead to cutting the woman out of the loop entirely. Artificial wombs have to be the result.

@Tommy WizOh no no... The gov wants u to marry... But u don't have to.

Are u talking aboit surrogacy?

That's all. Packaged in total price.

Yes you do. If you've ever lived together, supported the child together, or get *accused* of domestic abuse / violence you're fucked.

Ukraine government gets a cut. Trust me. They legislate for this shit, they get paid one way or another.

Just like lcd monitors got cheaper over time... This surrogacy gets. More established... It will become cheaper.... More options emerge to lower the price.

I know what you mean.,.. all in one price. But you cannot bring the price down to 5000