And use our brains and engineering to destroy them.

"Bargaining," specifically.

Because after all we built this worpd for them. To. Enjoy with us.

We can easily use. Our wit to take. Back full control.

@Terminarch no bro... This. Is a zero compromise option only favoring men.

What's denial brk?

We can have our cake and eat it too.

Everyone of. Is guys can be happy and have our family.

I think it's a step in the right direction, but adoption is better. That way you are saving a young man that is suffering right now. That's better than making new people... fixing the ones we have now.

Bargaining is a reference to the 5 stages of grief. Like if you lost a loved one.

OK let me. Put it this way....

What if tomorrow there was a medical breakthrough that allowed men to have babies.

Do. U think mgtows wouldn't want families or. Many would?

Have babies without women.

@Tommy WizOh hate to break. It to. U... But adoption agencies 99.9% of. Time only let foster. Parent married adopt... And single women... Rarely ever. Males.... I checked. Its part of. Their lock down strategy... And. They think it wouod be creepy.

That is the key.... without women. Super important detail. They are the gate keepers. If we are renting a womb, they will set the price. More men do it the higher the price will be. That's terrible for long term.... you want the more men do it the cheaper it is.

If single woman cannot have her own child, or a married couple are. Unable to conceive.

But never to a single male. That's virtually unheard of.

I know... that is the problem. It's on lockdown.

Why they lock that down but not this? Why does this loop hole exist?

@Tommy WizOh bro I. Is it said the price will drop. Over. Time... And later we will. Have baby bag in lab to make. The embryo and bring it to. Term.

It exists because it serves women's purposes.

Exactly... she is getting paid.

@Tommy WizOh because I invented this stratefy bro

The more it is done... the more they get out of it the more they will want. Price can only go up.

And I want fellow. Mgtows to discuss with me as a. Viable option.

@Tommy WizOh not necessarily... Why u worrying about economics... It's way cheaper than divorce and losing 10yrs of suffering. Alimioy etc.

U don't need. To. Pay forwedding.

Avg wedding cost is. Make. Than cost of this surrogacy.

20k USD in Ukraine goes a fucking long way man. That's a fucking lot for them, it will only go up from there. Look at the hyper inflated value of pussy.... the womb price will work the same way.

This way u can just go get your son.. And then datr a woman... It's cheaper than useless wedding lol.

If that's your path then take it. You don't need our permission. But I'm telling you now that most MGTOW will not do this.

U guys don't agree. It's a worthy alternative to current REKT gynocentric feminazi psycho system the worlf is quickly morphing into?

The plan is fine... it's just not scale-able.

^

Marginalizing men to be slaves, cucks,. And more.

Say it's all good... and then 100,000 mgtow all want a kid this year.... how many women are going to do this for 20k?

It's still centered around a fucking gyno though..that is the problem. Remove the woman from the equation and we have a deal.

Paying through the nose indenturee servitude to. Women for alimony, child support, and rediculous divorce fees, threat of going to jail for that too.

Every man that does this increases the price because the available services (ie available women) become rarer.

@Tommy WizOh therr is over supply of surrogates not a problrm.