Paying through the nose indenturee servitude to. Women for alimony, child support, and rediculous divorce fees, threat of going to jail for that too.

Every man that does this increases the price because the available services (ie available women) become rarer.

@Tommy WizOh therr is over supply of surrogates not a problrm.

OMG.

Why are you concerned with price climbing in future.... There will be more. Options and companies competing for business's.

And I said baby bag factories will reduce cost because the demand will. Justify that accelerated innovation.

U putting the cart ahead. Of the horse bro

Aside from. Ur perceived price issue.... Which is way cheaper than cost. Of weddding....

I don't have to marry to have a kid anyway.

The price will go up. You don't want to rent a used womb that's popped out 6 kids already. You want healthy womb, Look right now it's on sale.... not many people are doing it.... like when you get a phone plan... $20 a month for 3 months... then once it's being used all of the sudden you get your real bill is $200.

Do. U think it's a good alternative. For the 2M annually today getting married. And wrecking their lives?

If you are marring to have a son. Yes this is much better.

@Tommy WizOh hey Bro... Why else. Do people get. Married... It's. To have children and a family.

And I can see how it would contribute to acceleration of the tech development ok. Yeah. if demand sky rockets.

People get married to lock down a sexual partner.

This option gives the man 100% benefits... Current system only benefits the woman.

It's to shut her up about getting married. It's because simps want to please women and think they are winning a prize. Rarely do people TRY to have a kid now a days.

@Terminarch that's a false perception...

We all. Know that sex dries. Up during marriage.

We all know that every man thinks he has a unicorn.

They do. It because of societal pressure and manipulation by women

We know a whole fuckin' lot ... but its not getting us anywhere if we don't apply it.

Yeah, but with this method.... It's air tight benefits.man 100%

You know how this would work?

I can fix this... here;

@Tommy WizOh plead sure.

Have the government pay for surrogacy. They are paying to bring immigrants, they are paying child benefits etc. Have them pay it for couples, than homos than single women... step by step like that. Make sure it's written in gender neutral terms so they can't stop men from doing it.

@Tommy WizOh bro gov not paying for shut.

That's it. If the government will be a husband to single mothers... but they aren't making enough kids... than the government can be a fucking husband for single fathers. That's the only way. Level the playing field.

There very happy the economy is propped by the $200Bn bridal business, the $50Bn divorce business and the billions in reg fees men pay for marrying and getting ass fucked by the court system.

Here some hoe pops out 4 kids all from different men she doesn't even know who is the father and the government pays her 600 per kid per month.

You cannnot tell them it is for men. Tell them it is for the population stability and for women. Only they cannot write down 'women' they have to write down 'persons' or just claim you are a woman.

They would pay it for women. They fucking would, trust me. They pay it to them that price every fucking year.

OK so does anyone feel this idea is a good 'conscious mgtow' alternative to family building in the age of. Mgtow to help millions of guys looking to walk the plank each year in getting marriage raped.

Listen bros..
. Do we want more stronger, self reliant, men in our society?

It's better than marriage but not better than celibacy.

Do we want to. Be free of divorce matters, alimony, and keep. Custody of. Our children?

Bob... yes of course. But how do you change a thirsty simp? Wasn't it you that said you needed a woman to red pill you or you didn't believe it?

@Terminarch how is. It not. Better than celibacy?

Look... if the government paid for men to do it like they pay for women to do it now.... yes. It would be great.

U wouldn't have any joy in raising ur own genetic son?