hey what dose MGTOW mean?

men going there own way

that's what MGTOW means i thought MGTOW meant something else

that is it

I remember TFM talking about how in a war or seige. That all the men were gonna die, and the women would be taken as sex slaves. But then who are gonna work the fields lol?

No ones after man they will blame trees for looking imposing

Women will ask cats to their jobs

They will blame the men for dieing lol

they will blame the men for becoming sex slaves xD

We are alweys at blame

blame for loving them

Blame fo "Not" loving them

blame that we get cheated on by our Wives

Hey guys!

@machtyn , i can help you with your lack of ambitions and what not

Please do!

I don't really have an excuse because I discovered mgtow/red pill about a year ago but I still find myself in this "why should I" mindset... the answer should be "because I want to" but really... I have become so lazy.

I grew up watching Elliot Rodgers (at 15-16 years old) because I love working out. I read Bold and Determined and other red pill / PUA type stuff.

I just feel lost still, kinda.

i have been in the same Position as you like two months ago, Extreme Lack of Empathy, no joy in video games, Lack Luster Conversations, Etc. Etc. it Really SUCKS,

However, to get over it, it actually Starts with your Diet.

If you are Willing to Change your Diet @machtyn , to a Healthy diet of Vegetables / Herbs/ juices , you should start to feel better within two weeks. Direct Message me if your serious about Learning my Secrets on a less apathetic life , While Still keeping your Mgtow Principles in tack.

I will!

@machtyn @ZODD Perhaps the typical "self-help" approach is not the best way to deal with these issues...

Does anyone here work in the medical field in engineering, IT or patient care? I've worked in technology for the past 5 years (since I graduated at 19). Outside of programming (3 years in automotive and 2 in finance), the only other career I could see myself in is being a doctor or biomedical engineer. I'd love to hear your thoughts.

@Seven Of Swords What would you suggest?

@Seven Of Swords I don't have a closed mind or any specific "route." I am here to learn!

Hi @Jack Ass!

@machtyn Nice. I say that the typical "self-help" approach doesn't work for two reasons 1) there is a contradiction between "self-help" and the very selves that attempt to try these methods. How can it be called "self-help" if not all "selves" are the same? Its advertised as a one-size-fits-all yet its "self-help", not "everyone do this set of things called "self-help" and still be separate from the other sets of people doing the exact same thing.

True, there is a lot of nuance within developing yourself. I guess it's more "these things worked for me and since we're the same species it might help you too." Even that is valuable.

Less porn

And secondly, 2) What happens when you get bored of the "self-help" strategies and you find yourself in a slump again? How many times do you have to work-out to alleviate anxiety before you start building up tolerances to the amount of times that you work out in order to fend of anxiety? It doesn't seem that these typical strategies are robust enough to deal an entire multitude of different aspects.

@ZODD You are 100% right after I changed my manu. I stated to feel better

You need to fight your fear head on

And then you start to feel more relexd

Mgtow is also about acceptance

@the adventures male I only view porn/masturbation as cleaning the pipes. I don't watch hardcore porn - only weird softcore shit. It's weird and probably it's own fetish but I don't need much to get going. I actually prefer my imagination. Anyways, I did go down that route of NoFap but I only PMO 3-4 times a week.

@Seven Of Swords I totally see your point. I think being okay with yourself is the most important. I do find I need some physical activity every day since I work behind a keyboard.

@machtyn Gotcha.

I think the basics: sleep 7.5-9 hours at consistent fall/wake times, drink x amount of water, eat vegetables/healthy fats, exercise at least 3 hours a week, lift heavy things, learn something new every day or otherwise challenge yourself; are all good basics. I do agree it can get out of hand and become silly or a parody of itself.