Message from @Lilu

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2018-09-15 15:51:12 UTC  

Not quite...

2018-09-15 15:51:41 UTC  

I would like to caution against asigning too much blame.

2018-09-15 15:51:56 UTC  

I frankly don't care.

2018-09-15 15:52:10 UTC  

As a MGTOW man we look at the system and live our lives in a way that best suits us.

2018-09-15 15:52:31 UTC  

When you blame someone else you take away your ability to make change

2018-09-15 15:52:37 UTC  

Well... if you want to buy things and start to wonder why you have to sell your labor-power in order to live, perhaps you ought to be more curious.

2018-09-15 15:53:14 UTC  

@Lilu How so?

2018-09-15 15:53:20 UTC  

ideally focusing on what you can do and actions that you can take to make your own life better are likely more beneficial to yourself

2018-09-15 15:53:43 UTC  

I'm not saying that understanding the system is bad

2018-09-15 15:54:35 UTC  

I am just cautioning that there is a fine line between identifying a certain condition and become a victim by assigning blame and thus responsibility to another.

2018-09-15 15:55:10 UTC  

I agree that the banking and tax systems are messed up.

2018-09-15 15:55:27 UTC  

I'm just saying that there are ways around things.

2018-09-15 15:56:38 UTC  

@Lilu What do you mean by "become a victim"?

2018-09-15 15:57:57 UTC  

@Seven Of Swords Yes, a good book is the "The Creature from Jekyll Island"

2018-09-15 15:58:12 UTC  

I guess a really good example would be in MMO games. If they devs do some hotfix to WoW that disadvantages your class... You could complain about how Survial Hunters just got fucked last night or you could figure out which new spec to switch to or how to change your gameplay to adjust or maybe just play a different character etc...

2018-09-15 15:58:34 UTC  

@Lilu Take fully responsibility for your life. I love it and agree.

2018-09-15 15:58:51 UTC  

So when you blame someone else you remove your ability to change the situation. When you take responsibility you put yourself in a postion of control and power.

2018-09-15 15:59:34 UTC  

There is a fine line between learning the rules of the game an complaining about your victimhoood.

2018-09-15 15:59:34 UTC  

When you blame someone else you assign them responsibility over your life in that aspect. You lose control where instead of blaming you could pivot and take control in a smaller aspect.

2018-09-15 15:59:44 UTC  

I love your mindset, Lilu!

2018-09-15 15:59:46 UTC  

ya

2018-09-15 16:00:36 UTC  

@Lilu What books or content creators do you mostly consume relating to that mindset? I always kind of knew but heard it verbalized by Jocko Willink and others.

2018-09-15 16:00:43 UTC  

I believe life is all about perspective. In MGTOW circles I try to bring things back to a perspective that keeps personal power and control over one's life at the forefront.

2018-09-15 16:00:49 UTC  

@Lilu Is it more like your class got screwed over in WoW or is perhaps more like you are strapped to a chair and made to play WoW with the class that got the short end of the stick and you cannot change characters at gunpoint? Then you notice that tons of other people are in the same situation...

2018-09-15 16:00:55 UTC  

@Lilu Amen 😉

2018-09-15 16:01:31 UTC  

@Lilu How do you have personal power when you cannot even have the power to live how you want?

2018-09-15 16:01:55 UTC  

I'm 47 so I've been around and can't fully recall where all of my base viewpoints came from.

2018-09-15 16:01:58 UTC  

I must ask, is it a bad thing when a girl wants you to smile and not look grumpy?

2018-09-15 16:02:06 UTC  

@Seven Of Swords Yeah, we're all on the American Government Platform (tm). We have to pay taxes to exist here. You can leave to another country, go off the grid as much as possible or try lobbying for change.

2018-09-15 16:02:44 UTC  

@machtyn Ok... why should there be taxation?

2018-09-15 16:02:45 UTC  

@Lilu I'd love to chat sometime and encourage you to write an article on responsibility. It's very Stoic. I love it.

2018-09-15 16:02:51 UTC  

So it's nearly impossible to smile and still be angry. Likewise the act of standing tall with your head highand shoulders straight makes you confident.

2018-09-15 16:03:51 UTC  

@Seven Of Swords It's not why it's what is. Same with why is female nature this or that. It is. Thus, you need to take control over your small circle of influence within it. The government SHOULD be small. It shouldn't have any welfare. It should just protect/serve/basic infrastructure and taxes supply that.

2018-09-15 16:03:58 UTC  

Going "off the grid" is pretty much impossible because the Government declared that all land that isn't privatized is its own... because of its own sovereignty.

2018-09-15 16:04:25 UTC  

Yes, imminent domain.

2018-09-15 16:04:39 UTC  

Any one of us can be drafted immediately.

2018-09-15 16:04:50 UTC  

All accounts can be frozen/confiscated.

2018-09-15 16:04:59 UTC  

Hmmm in 2016 girls say "your smile is beautiful!!" "Don't look gloomy" but didn't studies say girls love when a man is miserable?

2018-09-15 16:05:00 UTC  

The government has entire control over our lives if you truly understand it.

2018-09-15 16:05:10 UTC  

@machtyn How can you say "that's simply it. oh well" and still think that you have more control than you really do?

2018-09-15 16:05:13 UTC  

@IceRGodZ Who cares what women want 😄