anyway I have to run off for a bit. BBL.

@KenneticEnergy Yes, you do. Your body converts it from fat to run the brain.

goodbye @Lilu

You don't need to EAT carbs/sugars.

It also depends on how active you are too, nutrition is highly personable tbh

Yes!

Agreed. I personally eat a little brown rice when I go sparring.

I wanna rewatch Fight Club one of these days

@machtyn Yes you do, to allow the basic metabolic functions of your body to take place. You need carbs and glucose. This is fact

When I lift without brown rice, I am flat in performance but I get a better physical response.

@KenneticEnergy No, you do not.

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The body converts fat into glucose.

As an older guy...you just have to watch the portions. Like when I do get fast food......its a small drink. small fries, and a small burger

The brain needs 100-150 grams of glucose to function. The body taps that from fat stores if no glucose is eaten.

Dude. If I don't get any carbs, or any sodium, or any glucose in my diet I'm quickly gonna become malnourished. Tell me how long you can go with a 0 carb, 0 glucose, and 0 sodium diet. You'll be diabetic before you know it

Moderation, is the key word. Most people OD on carbs, fat, sodium

@KenneticEnergy You will eat a small amount of carbs from vegetables. When did I ever say you needed no sodium/electrolytes?

Weight doesn't "melt" off me anymore

Well it's recommended to take some electrolytes on the keto diet.

Veggies provide the "essential" 20g carbs.

@machtyn My bad, I thought you were advocating for a diet absent of those nutrients lol

@KenneticEnergy Not at all.

@KenneticEnergy It is a myth that you need to eat carbs/sugars to sustain yourself though. You can eat fats and under 20mg carbs via veggies. Also, if you eat more than 40-80 grams of protein that will convert to glucose as well.

@KenneticEnergy So these "carnivore diet" people are actually converting to glucose without realizing it probably.

and sometimes...grabbing a lunch out.....yeah, a salad is the meal, and not some ginorous thing that chicks eat with 1000 pounds of dressing, chicken, cheese.....

I'm not advocating for a carnivore diet, I'm simply saying based off scientific fact you need some ammount of carbs, and glucose to live. Or at least function properly

The optimal diet is different for each individual. I personally have seen the keto (with IF) to be most effective at lowering insulin/inflammation and thus reducing fat accumulation and burning off stored fat. However, you don't perform better than someone eating more carbs probably. I don't think that research has been done.

@machtyn Some people who start diets and have no idea what they're doing end up hurting themselves

@KenneticEnergy I agree. I wasn't saying you advocated carnivore. I was using that as an example.

@machtyn I gotcha. Again it was my bad for misreading

Unless you're eating a cow in a sitting, protein doesn't effect ketosis.

@KenneticEnergy Yes but you're confusing dietary carbs/glucose with bio-available glucose. The body will convert stored fat to glucose. Why do you think engineers in Silicone Valley are fasting and using keto to clear brain fog?

@hel I don't think that is correct.

@machtyn True, btw they're also microdosing on some pretty heavy stuff like acid and what not. So I hear lol

You're still in ketosis, yes, but you are converting that protein to glucose for brain function.

seen plenty of overweigh engineers in the SIlicon Valley

Overeating protein will *slow* the rate of ketone production, not increase the rate of glucose production.

@KenneticEnergy Oh, well that would help 😄

@hel Ah, that makes sense.

@Deleted User Of course. They sit all day.