@KenneticEnergy You will eat a small amount of carbs from vegetables. When did I ever say you needed no sodium/electrolytes?

Weight doesn't "melt" off me anymore

Well it's recommended to take some electrolytes on the keto diet.

Veggies provide the "essential" 20g carbs.

@machtyn My bad, I thought you were advocating for a diet absent of those nutrients lol

@KenneticEnergy Not at all.

@KenneticEnergy It is a myth that you need to eat carbs/sugars to sustain yourself though. You can eat fats and under 20mg carbs via veggies. Also, if you eat more than 40-80 grams of protein that will convert to glucose as well.

@KenneticEnergy So these "carnivore diet" people are actually converting to glucose without realizing it probably.

and sometimes...grabbing a lunch out.....yeah, a salad is the meal, and not some ginorous thing that chicks eat with 1000 pounds of dressing, chicken, cheese.....

I'm not advocating for a carnivore diet, I'm simply saying based off scientific fact you need some ammount of carbs, and glucose to live. Or at least function properly

The optimal diet is different for each individual. I personally have seen the keto (with IF) to be most effective at lowering insulin/inflammation and thus reducing fat accumulation and burning off stored fat. However, you don't perform better than someone eating more carbs probably. I don't think that research has been done.

@machtyn Some people who start diets and have no idea what they're doing end up hurting themselves

@KenneticEnergy I agree. I wasn't saying you advocated carnivore. I was using that as an example.

@machtyn I gotcha. Again it was my bad for misreading

Unless you're eating a cow in a sitting, protein doesn't effect ketosis.

@KenneticEnergy Yes but you're confusing dietary carbs/glucose with bio-available glucose. The body will convert stored fat to glucose. Why do you think engineers in Silicone Valley are fasting and using keto to clear brain fog?

@hel I don't think that is correct.

@machtyn True, btw they're also microdosing on some pretty heavy stuff like acid and what not. So I hear lol

You're still in ketosis, yes, but you are converting that protein to glucose for brain function.

seen plenty of overweigh engineers in the SIlicon Valley

Overeating protein will *slow* the rate of ketone production, not increase the rate of glucose production.

@KenneticEnergy Oh, well that would help 😄

@hel Ah, that makes sense.

@Deleted User Of course. They sit all day.

Worked there for 20 years

100 grams of protein will convert to 50 grams of glucose @hel

@Deleted User Yeah, you were telling me about that. Thanks for the heads up. I won't ever move there but I will work for a company there for good money remotely 😄

@machtyn Yeah, I'm in anatomy right now and we looked at a human brain that was from an individual who died as a result of cocaine abuse. The brain looked black, and that was from the destroyed blood vessels as a result of cocaine use. I was shocked

@KenneticEnergy That is insane.

@KenneticEnergy That is awesome though! What's your career goal?

Kennetic......people are doing LSD again????? WT Freak!

@machtyn Yeah, especially if you think about how toxic blood is to neurons.. def a recipe for disaster.

I'm trying to get into nursing school haha

@Deleted User Yeah, Silicon Valley is apparently full of software engineers and social media engineers who are microdosing on acid and other psychadelics. It's crazy

I am lucky.........my cocaine abuse............I came through it with most of my brain still inatct....but man.....at tax time, following the forms for all the clients I have.....yeah, there was a side effect...I have to go real. real slow

They're doing it as a way to "concentrate" better, but it's insaine. That's like taking vicodin for a minor headache

Have not done LSD since 1992.........

@Deleted User For sure man. I heard back in the 80s/90s it was considered like a "classy" or "rich person's" drug lol

I have several family members who suffered from cocaine addiction. Theyre clean now though

LSD got popular on college campuses at the end of the 1980's......cocaine was and is still expensive. Nasty evil drug

Been clean since 2004