@Mab Asakura I feel for you brother I was never really completely an introvert but I think I may have had a bit of social anxiety in certain situations, it is a problem so many suffer from and as men truly nobody gives a fuck

@ToastMcGhost Wow I never knew that was a thing. Will definitely look into those. Thanks for showing me options my dude.

I'm glad to help. I wanted to start my own mental health YT channel at some point

@Reaper Nobody gives a fuck is right. Like, if I pipe up about my issues, It either gets brushed aside as weakness or blown out of proportion for no reason. People really don't know how to react with moderation.

Men are more likey to go undaignosed/not seek help due to stigmas

We're also... like 80 something percent of suicides?

@Mab Asakura it's actually pretty disgusting that in a society where men are constantly under mental attack our mental health is also put on low to no priority

Btw I didn't mean to divert the attention away from @GingerSnaps problem.

Look at the gynocentric world we live in. It takes a lot of mental fortitude and character to not be depressed at least a little bit if you ask me.

Just that you lot are really fun to talk to so I kinda went with it.

I don't think it's that men don't reach out, reaching out doesn't seem to help.

@GingerSnaps truth

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath facts

Yeah i'm with cold on that one

Reaching out will likely just get u shamed and mis-diagnosed

I mean this whole open up crap doesn't help, like for men things need to be pragmatic and solution oriented instead of a feeling based approach to things.

From what I've heard all these healthcare professionals slap people with some prescriptions meds and are done with it.

When we don't fully understand how they work.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath Easy fix. Presscribe more opioids and keep that big pharma wheel a-turning.

In relation to this, I'd suggest watching Wandering Wojak's video recently on this subject.

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath exactly pills can only regulate feelings they can never fix a problem... a total female oriented solution

THey throw a label on you and then shove meds down your throat and if you question what your taking or don't ffollow doctors orders to the t like taking yourself off something that isn't working for you you get shunned and ridiculed.

Cure the disease? Nah, let's treat it indefinitely for MAXIMUM MONIESSSSSSSS

It addresses the problem of loneliness amongst men.

I've heard this on a few MGTOW videos, but men don't have to hunt and gather or create fire anymore so we're not fully "serving our purpose" I guess you can say

And most of those meds are only meant to keep you at a higher state of functioning but still dysfunctional enough to need treatment so that it's recurring business. Most healthcare professionals are not in the business of curing people, that would mean less money and job security for them.

Situation is fairly bleak when it comes to health care.

@GingerSnaps exactly it's about zombification and getting back to your job in the production line, not fixing uou

You*

That's sort of what SSRIs do.

I know of this guy who has BPD, he's been prescribed those and he feels like a zombie when he's on it.

at least it's doing something for him. THey're clinically proven to be only as effective as a placebo.

Oh? Do you have an article for that?

I mean he says so, not sure if it really is like that.

Not off the top of my head.

I was on an antidepressants that had fluoride in it and I had no feelings whatsoever. Never happy/sad/mad, anything

Technically it worked I guess

@ColdEmbraceOfDeath almost every crime you see reported when a person does some unthinkable shit with total calm they are on ssri's and it never gets reported

```Antidepressants are supposed to work by fixing a chemical imbalance, specifically, a lack of serotonin in the brain. Indeed, their supposed effectiveness is the primary evidence for the chemical imbalance theory. But analyses of the published data and the unpublished data that were hidden by drug companies reveals that most (if not all) of the benefits are due to the placebo effect. Some antidepressants increase serotonin levels, some decrease it, and some have no effect at all on serotonin. Nevertheless, they all show the same therapeutic benefit. Even the small statistical difference between antidepressants and placebos may be an enhanced placebo effect, due to the fact that most patients and doctors in clinical trials successfully break blind. The serotonin theory is as close as any theory in the history of science to having been proved wrong. Instead of curing depression, popular antidepressants may induce a biological vulnerability making people more likely to become depressed in the future.```

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172306/

Damn, this sounds like some Shady shit these companies are up to.