Message from @Moosey

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2017-07-21 02:07:35 UTC  

FUCK hegel

2017-07-21 02:08:10 UTC  

more metaphysical just means more Kantian. If you fail to account for the end of your actions, you fail to account for their totality. Aristotle is never wrong.

2017-07-21 02:08:43 UTC  

Aristotle is sometimes wrong

2017-07-21 02:08:55 UTC  

agreed fuck Hegel but that doesn't require cucking for Kant.

2017-07-21 02:09:23 UTC  

I think Kant was the closest we got to a complete system of thought

2017-07-21 02:10:28 UTC  

vandalvoid is down, is the domain kill?

2017-07-21 02:10:40 UTC  

Complete "systems" of political thought don't exist. The exigencies of the human condition have perennial similarities and some constants but they change as we do.

2017-07-21 02:11:01 UTC  

not just political thought

2017-07-21 02:12:00 UTC  

accounting for our limited nature and imperfection is key. Aristotle and his ideological descendants account for that the best IMO.

2017-07-21 02:12:48 UTC  

No offense but I often think it silly when people interpret Aristotle as a materialist and most if not all of his metaphysics can be reconciled with the transcendental

2017-07-21 02:13:06 UTC  

that said, I'll take a forthright Kantian over the degenerate slags and whores we see celebrated today.

2017-07-21 02:13:21 UTC  

Virtue Ethics all the way but also the Transcendental Aesthetic

2017-07-21 02:13:39 UTC  

I never denied the transcendent, muh dude. Furthest thing from it.

2017-07-21 02:14:05 UTC  

Yo soy Catolico.

2017-07-21 02:14:28 UTC  

But I also think that the hardline materialist position is not even normally physically valid à la muh quantums

2017-07-21 02:14:35 UTC  

much less metaphysically

2017-07-21 02:16:26 UTC  

Agreed. Materialist determinism is gross. I like Hobbes, I do not like Hobbesians.

2017-07-21 02:17:05 UTC  

funniliy enough marxists never like it when u point out that 200 years of intellectual rigor is debunked by one science experiment tho

2017-07-21 02:17:14 UTC  

God I haven't been able to Autism post like this in a while. I kinda miss college sometimes lol.

2017-07-21 02:17:33 UTC  

haha Marxists don't into truth.

2017-07-21 02:18:17 UTC  

i might make a "class is an a priori conc.." "gas" meme

2017-07-21 02:18:28 UTC  

later

2017-07-21 02:19:28 UTC  

Do it fam. Marxist bantz never die, they ascend to the world of ideas.

2017-07-21 02:19:54 UTC  

REE HOBBES DID NOTHING WRONG

2017-07-21 02:19:56 UTC  

FUGG YOUU

2017-07-21 02:20:36 UTC  

jokes on u Vanguard Fascism is just as much an extension of marxian thought as communism

2017-07-21 02:20:53 UTC  

and capitalism for that matter

2017-07-21 02:21:08 UTC  

false its reactionary to communism

2017-07-21 02:21:29 UTC  

I won't deny that

2017-07-21 02:21:36 UTC  

Fascism had a hybrid true capitalist model versus (((CAPITALISM)))

2017-07-21 02:22:12 UTC  

mfw at the impasse of my evening, current drink level slows me down but further drinks will facilitate so I must bear this burden

2017-07-21 02:22:13 UTC  

anything that even uses the word capital unironically is marxist and should be ceased

2017-07-21 02:22:40 UTC  

yeah false unless you like having absolutely no edge in anything engineering, business, or any other vector

2017-07-21 02:22:57 UTC  

germany didn't have king tigers by chance

2017-07-21 02:22:59 UTC  

capital itself is a flawed understanding of the material world

2017-07-21 02:23:02 UTC  

or panthers et al

2017-07-21 02:23:12 UTC  

you view capitalism in the wrong vein

2017-07-21 02:23:32 UTC  

you may not have money to do a business yourself others do and are gathering resources you invest as part of it and are rewarded with your surplus

2017-07-21 02:23:40 UTC  

Hobbes metaphysical pronouncement that all life is matter in motion implies heavily that he's a materialistic determinist. Not central to the good things he writes but uses enlightenment scientific ideas as the basis for his political reflections. I like him to a point, but he has his failings.

2017-07-21 02:24:23 UTC  

The problem is when your capital becomes something "worthwile" in and of itself