Message from @skooks
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capital itself is a flawed understanding of the material world
or panthers et al
you view capitalism in the wrong vein
you may not have money to do a business yourself others do and are gathering resources you invest as part of it and are rewarded with your surplus
Hobbes metaphysical pronouncement that all life is matter in motion implies heavily that he's a materialistic determinist. Not central to the good things he writes but uses enlightenment scientific ideas as the basis for his political reflections. I like him to a point, but he has his failings.
The problem is when your capital becomes something "worthwile" in and of itself
so you shouldnt get tangible assets
wtf
resources are not meaningful outside of their ability to sustain life
you some kind of commie faggot
yes they are lmao
not necessary is a better word
they generate further ability to operate and expand what you want in life from business to family
material expansion is the wrong kind of striving
in a metaphysical sense of course
Material expansion allows a society to have greater power than rival societies
nothing wrong with just living ur life
From an a prior standpoint they don't have intrinsic value as they're presumed. They're benefit derives from their use. In this context, capitalism =/= commerce and industry but something more specific.
you keep viewing this as a material expenditure due to your personal use
a true capitalist reinvests in further items that generate revenue not a fucking material piece of shit brand name
@Mayor of Fashtown if you are defining your society solely upon its power and its material expanse then you are doing it wrong
there's ground for agreement between both positions.
So much this @Vanguard
@Moosey its not a zero sum game
there is a middle ground but its being framed incorrectly assuming that you invest buy yo nigga ass some ray bans or something
If we define the act of expansion itself as something to strive for then collapse is inevitable
From a philosophical position you're describing maybe mercantilism or commercial enterprise rather than capitalism itself though.
Expansion and acquisition of resources for the in group is the heart of nature itself
why is it inevitable?
There is a fine line between the natural survival need and greed
infinite expansion under conditions of scarcity is impossible in material sense. Not the only sense in which capital operates though clearly.
So what be afganistan?
Actually the white race specifically evolved to seek excess materials for survival in downtimes rather than live at bare minimums
I understand that empires have ollapsed, but is that solely because of their expansion?
Not only so but it is a major facotr
Living bare minimum day to day is an implicitly nigger mindset
not being greedy doesn't mean foregoing excess
Empires collapsed because empires are made of many ethnic groups brought together by force