Message from @Troye

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2019-12-19 06:06:47 UTC  

Yup

2019-12-19 06:06:59 UTC  

actually said *saudi arabia*

2019-12-19 06:07:01 UTC  

Un couldnt do shit

2019-12-19 06:07:19 UTC  

Ever since then i hated them

2019-12-19 06:07:22 UTC  

They afforded women the right to drive - ergo leaders in the women's rights movement.

2019-12-19 06:07:38 UTC  

also bosnian wars

2019-12-19 06:07:40 UTC  

Ignoring current laws that allow women to be stoned to death for *perceived infidelity*

2019-12-19 06:07:42 UTC  

Since 2001 at least 980 billion has been spent on attempting to reform Afghanistan. Thousands of US soldiers have died for a regime change war that barely accomplished anything over 18 years. I would argue its created more terrorism and hate for the US mire tgan anything else

2019-12-19 06:07:47 UTC  

huge fuck up of the UN

2019-12-19 06:07:54 UTC  

> @Troye > thousands

2019-12-19 06:08:05 UTC  

Worthy sacrifice. I will remember them.

2019-12-19 06:08:14 UTC  

Never forget

2019-12-19 06:08:37 UTC  

Al queda is in talks with us constantly rn

2019-12-19 06:08:41 UTC  

As of July 7, 2018, there have been 2,372 U.S. military deaths in the War in Afghanistan.

2019-12-19 06:08:54 UTC  

Again worthy sacrifices

2019-12-19 06:09:01 UTC  

Count the deaths from al queda

2019-12-19 06:09:08 UTC  

To be fair, it's worth reading up on the terrorism of the Islamic caliphate and the consequences wrought upon innocent nations. It's relatively easy to critique the US government on it's involvement in Afghanistan, but more noble to recognize the humanitarian causes advanced by our actions.

2019-12-19 06:09:34 UTC  

Its not worthy if it cause more radicalization

2019-12-19 06:09:39 UTC  

It wont

2019-12-19 06:09:50 UTC  

It does

2019-12-19 06:09:58 UTC  

ISIS just uses it for propagada even if its not true

2019-12-19 06:10:00 UTC  

It doesnt

2019-12-19 06:10:14 UTC  

Or else 9/11 wouldnt have happened

2019-12-19 06:10:16 UTC  

That's the catch 22. We've desperately tried to enact a self-sufficient government. The challenge is that their culture almost exclusively promotes dictatorship as the rule of law.

2019-12-19 06:10:59 UTC  

The greatest thing in afgahastan is that we are talking with al-queda

2019-12-19 06:11:10 UTC  

instead of killing the whole population

2019-12-19 06:11:13 UTC  

@Mersenne Of course I agree that the Islamic caliphate is a cancer on the planet and is killing many people. But they've mostly grown as a result of our presence

2019-12-19 06:11:16 UTC  

of afganahistan

2019-12-19 06:11:49 UTC  

Besides we need to be in war ready conidtion

2019-12-19 06:12:00 UTC  

This is useful experience

2019-12-19 06:12:18 UTC  

We send billions in foreign aid to Saudi Arabia who fund terrorist groups

2019-12-19 06:12:27 UTC  

They've definitely used US presence to sympathize with Islamic extremists, but this goes back to the pernicious nature of their culture and religion. Ignoring the geo-political aspects, it's worth handing this clusterfuck over the UN or more localized nations while preserving pockets of troops to monitor for Islamic militant activity.

2019-12-19 06:12:41 UTC  

And then we go over to fight them its a giant shit show

2019-12-19 06:12:57 UTC  

This is why i hate libertarians

2019-12-19 06:13:02 UTC  

Hippies

2019-12-19 06:13:08 UTC  

I would argue we've advanced to the point of where monitoring and drone strikes would be perfectly effective.

2019-12-19 06:13:13 UTC  

That cannot see the way of geopolitik

2019-12-19 06:13:32 UTC  

Well, libertarians only care about personal freedoms period

2019-12-19 06:13:41 UTC  

That's why they tend to be insufferable

2019-12-19 06:13:49 UTC  

Yeah