You're advocating for funding a war to fight the terrirists while we fund the terrorists. Do you realize how stupid that is

At that point fuck the saudis

its not really

Its an exchange

And besides the saudis prop them up and we knock them down

Knock them down quite easily i might add.

It's a breath of fresh air to recognize the problems, but proposing solutions is challenging when you have the American economy dependent on the Saudi's production of crude.

We have energy surplus but not crude surplus

Different things

And while I'm all about the idea of implementing electric vehicles, we're realistically 20 years from that landmark.

25 years

It's gonna be a few decades.

So this whole thing with Trumps impeachment, I figure it out. They don't want it to go through the plan is a setup for the next election to have a slogan against Trump something with "legitimacy" something like "But do you really want to trust your freedoms future to someone who was already IMPEACHED", "Well DO YOU?!"
They don't want it to fully pass they want it to fail. Then blame the right for not following through and point to the mask they placed on Trump as a distraction from anything as, "At least we can't be as bad as the Impeached guy, mirite y'all!" (Laughter ensues from placed audience)

getting rid of the bad rap that nuclear power gets and focusing on advancing that would be an excellent first step on the way to cutting ties with Saudi Arabia

@Cobra Commander yep

Also yeah Fox

I definitely agree with that @Cobra Commander

We cant handle another senario like the 1973 opec embargo

So we use the saudis

That's one of the reasons I can't stand any talks around the Green New Deal. It's carelessly discards Nuclear energy while ignoring the abundance of energy provided, lack of carbon emissions, and independence from crude.

@Gray__Fox And yes, that's most likely their plan

@Gray__Fox well thats correct but it will backfire of course

it's entirely part of a political ploy to use the coming failure of the senate trial as a form of negative partisanship

> failure

The green new deal is a pile of shit

@Gray__Fox - It's a shit plan, as they've just catalyzed the Republican base and likely lost the moderate democrats who claimed republican districts in 2018.

You mean success

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well, failure in regards to the surface level of the democrats plan

yeah

for the rest it would be a success<:Pepe_of_akkad:462279833511264257>

Lets hope it fails

@Troye Dont mistake my neutral tone as support for the saudis. I am just being realistic.

A bill for censure would have been best. The impending problem will be the Biden's being called to testify as witnesses, while all other viable Dem candidates will be tied up in Senate hearings.

i don't see how it wouldn't really, so i wouldn't be worried. that being said, i also wouldn't get complacent either.

I wonder why they didnt censure

Remember about half the country voted against trump and the dems passed impeachment. This hasn't been won yet

It would be easy support

I guess a easy win for support vs a hard win for mike pence is preferable?

Yeah no they want it to fail

Christ, president pence sounds terrifying.