oh this is amendment 4.... "If no agreement is reached within three months, the government must report every 28 days on the progress of reuniting child refugees with their families." .. what does this have to do with the EU???

labour think economic migrants are refugees

whenever you read a labour policy or ammendment, you first have to translate all the terminology from marxist into english

"child" meaning anyone age 0-25

I assume these shitty amendments are getting rejected?

How long are we paying in for?

everything i've seen so far has been rejected

ooo just got a bit of inside info on the ukraine flight

my mum's released the press release.. but its like... half the info because they cant saying anythin...

So are you telling us?

hang on.. phone..

...

get on with it!

so what, did it get shot down with a SAM or something?

yeah so... basically it seems like the plane was most likely hit by a missile...

RIP

but they aint saying anything til they get all the evidence... cos yknow... the situation..

Fired by whom'st've?

trigger happy iranians?

the black box will tell all.. but Iran has it... and apparently they need some people from seattle to collect it

so... if they allow americans to come collect it... then we'll see what happened... but with it...

they aren't going to hand over an incriminating black box are they

and the pilot had 11k hrs experience, 5k as a captain

depends... if they dont hand it over, it will look suspicious anyway so... they have to do something

black box will mysteriously go missing

Trump address in 30 mins

or be conveniently damaged

in my mums opinion the plane was hit by something

but they cant "officially" speculate

Hit by something

basically, what she was telling me is that if an engine failed or even in the unlikely event that both engines failed it would have glided, somewhat, and come down harder than normal.. but very survivable (no explosions)

ah ok.. the Iranian civil aviation's head has already said they are not giving the black box over

oh yeah, another thing she mentioned... that plane was only a few years old... practically new

she said something about radar as well... apparently planes dont just drop out of radar, even when very low

Looking at the pics and video around on Pol it was clearly shot.

https://videos.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2020/01/08/6032810666911157240/480x270_MP4_6032810666911157240.mp4

this allegedly shows it crashing & burning

modern airliners don't do that from benign causes

yeah my mum was saying its designed to glide down even if both engines went.. which is rare enough on its own

So...Stupid trigger happy militia?

she sounded fairly stressed... i imagine shes not having the best day 😛