Message from @Uksio

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2020-02-24 15:47:25 UTC  

There was socialism before marx

2020-02-24 15:47:30 UTC  

But communism is impossible tho

2020-02-24 15:47:30 UTC  

Marx is not adam

2020-02-24 15:47:32 UTC  

Yes, they are the same coin, two sides of it.

2020-02-24 15:47:39 UTC  

Ya they tend to nationalize things under the private entity that is the government. Difference between hitler was he allowed the people who knew how to manage in it Stay in charge aka a technocracy.

2020-02-24 15:47:45 UTC  

ENgels is not eve

2020-02-24 15:47:49 UTC  

Scarcity and hierarchies are just things that will always exist

2020-02-24 15:47:49 UTC  

where does socialism call for protecting private property ?

2020-02-24 15:48:01 UTC  

ascwell as mass privatization?

2020-02-24 15:48:09 UTC  

it doesn't

2020-02-24 15:48:14 UTC  

i know

2020-02-24 15:48:21 UTC  

its rhetorical

2020-02-24 15:48:33 UTC  

john seems to be a bit hazy in the mins

2020-02-24 15:48:33 UTC  

hence why we don't need it

2020-02-24 15:48:35 UTC  

Mass privatization aka. state having majority control of every company that goes against it

2020-02-24 15:48:36 UTC  

mind

2020-02-24 15:48:38 UTC  

Exactly, natsoc isn't a socialist economic policy party. It's a social program party.

2020-02-24 15:48:54 UTC  

private property will always be there even if you abolish it on paper

2020-02-24 15:48:55 UTC  

@BabaBooey okay, CHRIS-CHAN

2020-02-24 15:49:09 UTC  

exactly, by that logic bismark was a socialist πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

2020-02-24 15:49:21 UTC  

People like to own the fruits of their labour, and even stolen things, believe it or not

2020-02-24 15:49:21 UTC  

private property=/= personal property

2020-02-24 15:49:46 UTC  

Like I meme about Hitler being socialist, because he absolutely wasn't a socialist. He used socialist movements and ideals to amass power and usurped the socialist movement and twisted it into fascism.

2020-02-24 15:49:54 UTC  

Ya ya we get it your needle thread logic and terminology so you can take peoples things as long as you aren’t making money from it

2020-02-24 15:50:04 UTC  

private property <= personal property.
Distinction is only there for inheritance and corporate law purposes.

2020-02-24 15:50:13 UTC  

He was totalitarian

2020-02-24 15:50:20 UTC  

Because corporations are not people.

2020-02-24 15:50:50 UTC  

Any personal property is private property.
But not all private property is personal.

2020-02-24 15:50:54 UTC  

@2K even though you arent a leftist, i un ironically believe you wouldn't side with reaction when the time comes

2020-02-24 15:51:00 UTC  

@Uksio exactly

2020-02-24 15:51:07 UTC  

therefore, you are a comrade of mine

2020-02-24 15:51:13 UTC  

@BabaBooey 2k's actually Chaotic-Evil

2020-02-24 15:51:13 UTC  

He's he was a totalitarian figurehead of an authoritarian fascist state.

2020-02-24 15:51:13 UTC  

Every government and corporation has private property

2020-02-24 15:51:29 UTC  

They aren't people

2020-02-24 15:51:36 UTC  

Fascism isn't a full opposite of social programs that socialism claims to be about.

2020-02-24 15:51:45 UTC  

Group of people is allowed to share property.

2020-02-24 15:51:49 UTC  

That's fine

2020-02-24 15:52:02 UTC  

Won't work on a state level with everything being shared though

2020-02-24 15:52:15 UTC  

There is a limit to that

2020-02-24 15:52:36 UTC  

But the nazi party was absolutely not a socialist party.