Message from @Uksio

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2020-02-24 15:48:55 UTC  

@BabaBooey okay, CHRIS-CHAN

2020-02-24 15:49:09 UTC  

exactly, by that logic bismark was a socialist πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

2020-02-24 15:49:21 UTC  

People like to own the fruits of their labour, and even stolen things, believe it or not

2020-02-24 15:49:21 UTC  

private property=/= personal property

2020-02-24 15:49:46 UTC  

Like I meme about Hitler being socialist, because he absolutely wasn't a socialist. He used socialist movements and ideals to amass power and usurped the socialist movement and twisted it into fascism.

2020-02-24 15:49:54 UTC  

Ya ya we get it your needle thread logic and terminology so you can take peoples things as long as you aren’t making money from it

2020-02-24 15:50:04 UTC  

private property <= personal property.
Distinction is only there for inheritance and corporate law purposes.

2020-02-24 15:50:13 UTC  

He was totalitarian

2020-02-24 15:50:20 UTC  

Because corporations are not people.

2020-02-24 15:50:50 UTC  

Any personal property is private property.
But not all private property is personal.

2020-02-24 15:50:54 UTC  

@2K even though you arent a leftist, i un ironically believe you wouldn't side with reaction when the time comes

2020-02-24 15:51:00 UTC  

@Uksio exactly

2020-02-24 15:51:07 UTC  

therefore, you are a comrade of mine

2020-02-24 15:51:13 UTC  

@BabaBooey 2k's actually Chaotic-Evil

2020-02-24 15:51:13 UTC  

He's he was a totalitarian figurehead of an authoritarian fascist state.

2020-02-24 15:51:13 UTC  

Every government and corporation has private property

2020-02-24 15:51:29 UTC  

They aren't people

2020-02-24 15:51:36 UTC  

Fascism isn't a full opposite of social programs that socialism claims to be about.

2020-02-24 15:51:45 UTC  

Group of people is allowed to share property.

2020-02-24 15:51:49 UTC  

That's fine

2020-02-24 15:52:02 UTC  

Won't work on a state level with everything being shared though

2020-02-24 15:52:15 UTC  

There is a limit to that

2020-02-24 15:52:36 UTC  

But the nazi party was absolutely not a socialist party.

2020-02-24 15:52:47 UTC  

That's like claiming antifa is anti fascist.

2020-02-24 15:52:55 UTC  

also: if there is no private property, you have to share wife too

2020-02-24 15:53:02 UTC  

Gommunesm

2020-02-24 15:53:40 UTC  

@NinjaQuick it was and it wasn't, depending on what time period and what policies you look at

2020-02-24 15:54:23 UTC  

Well it wasn't, patently. Hitler merely used the skeleton of the old socialist party to build up his machine.

2020-02-24 15:54:38 UTC  

cant wait for this place to erupt in revolution, u with me ? @ubermensch

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2020-02-24 15:55:21 UTC  

Are you calling for violence?

2020-02-24 15:55:43 UTC  

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2020-02-24 15:55:52 UTC  

In the beginning hilter made education and healthcare accessible to all, relaxed the taxes for individuals while strictening the rules for companies. And he built roads on what essentially was loans from the people.
Sounds socialist to me.
He didn't stick to that for too long though and went syndicalist-ultra-nationalist after.

2020-02-24 15:55:53 UTC  

People try to conflate nazism with socialism to try to prove socialism is just as bad or hitler was a socialist. Socialism is itself an unsustainable ideology

2020-02-24 15:56:12 UTC  

Yes he was always for social programs.

2020-02-24 15:56:16 UTC  

@Al Capwned no im calling for the cleansing of tge city

2020-02-24 15:56:17 UTC  

But social programs aren't socialism.

2020-02-24 15:56:23 UTC  

look how nasty it looks

2020-02-24 15:56:55 UTC  

the buildings could use a fresh coat of paint

2020-02-24 15:57:12 UTC  

Hitler did not socialize the ownership of the means of production.

2020-02-24 15:57:21 UTC  

But then again... soBiets were not very socialist all the way through

2020-02-24 15:57:32 UTC  

@Al Capwned yes, i vote red